Do you bi-wire your B&W?

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  1. Yoon Lee

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    Do you bi-wire your B&W speakers, especially for CDMs? I know, it's one of the most controversial topics and I don't intend to start a war. I just want to hear from those who tried to bi-wire their B&Ws and their opinion on it. Thanks.
     
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    Yes, I do. I have heard contriversy over this, yet B&Ws own site mentions that it has its benefits.

    be prepared to hear all kinds of dis-agreements on this topic
     
  3. Steve_Ma

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    I recently bi-wired my mains and center (603S2/CC6) just to see for myself if there was any improvement/change. I didn't notice any difference at all.

    --Steve
     
  4. Jim_F

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    When I biwired my 602 S2s with some extra cable which I had collecting dust in the basement, I thought I heard a subtle improvement. Whether it was real or imagined or if it was only due to doubling the conductor didn't matter to me. It was free.

    When I upgraded to N805s, I just went ahead and bought some modest biwire cables on Audiogon.

    My minimal understanding of electricity leads me to believe that it shouldn't do much of anything, and probably not anything audible, but, again, it doesn't matter to me. It's recommended by the manufacturer, and since I'm not one to buy thousand dollar cables, the expense is zero to minimal.
     
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    I do not bi-wire my 7NT's, but I'm driving them with a Yamaha 793. First things first (ie, first a decent amp, then I'll consider bi-wiring).
    Joe
     
  6. Steve_Ma

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    One thing I didn't mention in my original reply: In my opinion, unless someone is using some really "high-end" (read: Expensive) cable, I think it's a worthwhile experiment. One way or the other, you'll end up with a piece of mind and know right where you stand on the whole bi-wire debate.
    --Steve
     
  7. Philip Hamm

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    I biwired my 602s. No difference. They're now single wired.
     
  8. James Bergeron

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    Intend to bi-wire my 602's when I get them. It cost me "double" t wire my entire room this way so I'm going to use the damn wire. Does it make a difference? I haven't a clue, but I didn't want to alway WONDER if it would, so I figured I would bite the bullet.

    As an added bonus, if someday they come out with some other surround process with 12 speakers I'm set! Since I could use the other pair of wire for another set of speaker :). I only ran 1 run of speaker wire in the rear for a 6.1 setup, but I could not bi-wire the rear surround and have 7.1.

    At least it keeps your options open.
     
  9. Bob-N

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    Yes, I'll be biwiring my CDM1NTs as soon as I finalize my setup. It's a pain to wire and rewire, pull the amp out, etc. So when I wire in my surrounds, that will be the time to biwire.

    I figure it's not much expense to try it out since I'm using "cheap" Sound King 12awg wire and bananas.

    Bob
     
  10. Pete Jennings

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    I bi-wire my B&W 602S2's with Canare Star Quad. At the very least it gives me a net guage of 11, looks great, and doesn't adversely affect the sound. I, along with my my wife (who really doesn't give a rip-dip), think (you could say imagine if you want to) that we hear subtle differences in imaging and tightness in bass from bi-wiring. No, it wasn't a double-blind test, and no, I don't plan on conducting one. I have about $73 including connectors in my front three cables, so count me happy! [​IMG]
    My $.02
     
  11. chung_sotheby

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    I think that biamping the B&W's would create much more of a perceivable effect than Biwiring. Remember, biwiring was created from an error someone made while trying to biamp.
     
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    Chung, really? Please expand on this.

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    Holadem
     
  13. RajeeK

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    I have my front's and center biwired. I use Sound King OFC 12 Gauge copper wire and custom made my cables. Do I notice a difference, honestly no, but good basic 12ga copper wire is pretty cheap so I went ahead and did it. Now for the sides and rears, that many feet of biwiring can get a bit pricey so I don't biwire those. BTW, I have CDM's all around. If ya got extra cable around go for it.
     
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    Why on earth would B&W go through the trouble and expense of creating those bi-wire inputs if it doesn't make any difference? I'm bi-wiring, just in case.
     
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    If you're of the mindset to investigate biwiring, take the time to check out the following link (the usual ebb and flow on biwiring) and scroll to the bottom for a simple approach to try to determine its benefit, if any.
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...threadid=36013
     
  17. Alan Kurland

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    I've been biwiring for years with my HTM1 center, 804s main and (802s - biwired, but not biamped for dedicated stereo use) Though obviously the recommendation from B+W helps, I've been able to subtly and subjectively discern some improved imaging and spatial dimensionality to the sound/ music. I do suspect that unless you're biamping, which would offer an obvious advantage (I had intended to do that), a preference for biwiring is a subjective experience.
     
  18. Mike Main

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    Yes I just biwired my front 7nts but not the center (not yet). Yes there is a difference. I was using some regular monster wire and upgraded to Alpha Core MI2 copper python biwired. Really brought out more bass!!! And overall sharpen things up. Im very happy. I dont feel like biwiring the rear CDM 1nts cause it would be too much work but 1 day Ill be bored enuf to do so. So my advice would definitely DO IT
    Mike [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  19. ben hunt

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    ok...what's biwiring?
     
  20. Larry B

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    My Thiel CS6s do not allow biwiring, so that solved the problem for me.

    For those considering biwiring, it is worth noting that some feel that for any given budget, better improvements will be gained from single-wiring with higher quality cable (rather than than bi-wiring with cheaper cables). Of course, this presumes that there are sonic differences in wires which, as we all know, is a controversial topic.

    Larry
     

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