Do 1080p HDTV for sizes below 24"? Does it even matter?

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  1. JediFonger

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    so that's my two questions. i'm looking for a nice little HDTV to replace my huge 13" CRT. i'm also a bit of a obsessive-compulsive nut [​IMG].

    do under 24" 1080p HDTV's exist? i haven't found any. will they?

    the follow up question to that is, does it need to be? the difference is going to be so minor, why not go with 720p and downscale all HD 1080i/p content to 720p?

    ok, so under 24" HDTV's w/720p does exist but does it exist with HDMI-HDCP? if not, will they be? i've seen many with component input or DVI but haven't see any w/HDCP.

    anyone?

    why would i need HDCP/HDMI or DVI? why, to futureproof myself of course when HD-DVD/BR comes along and dips into the $100 regions and i'd like to get one for the kitchen =).
     
  2. Allan Jayne

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    If big bad Hollywood has its way, some HDTV sources will not be able to deliver HDTV signals into a HDTV set without HDCP. The future of this subject remains unknown at this time.

    If you have limited space and will be consistently sitting close to the screen, a 24 inch or smaller 1080p "moviescope" is perfectly viable if you can find one. Sitting 3 feet from a 24 inch screen is the same as sitting 12 feet from a 96 inch screen.

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    the point is, does such a device exist or not? haven't really had time to really scope it out.
     
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    Under 24inch 720p with HDMI have existed for awhile. I'm pretty sure that my Samsung 238W qualifies. I'm 99% sure it's HDCP compliant though no way to test it yet.

    I don't think a 1080p exists in that small a set other than a computer monitor which might double as a TV.

    From most things I've read, the difference for that small a set is very unlikely to be noticeable unless you're sitting within a foot.
     
  5. Steve Schaffer

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    Almost all current model 16/9 lcd panel HD-ready sets have HDMI inputs, and all HDMI inputs are HDCP compliant. None in that screen size are 1080p, and none are likely to be unless the whole overhyped 1080p thing gets totally out of control. The fact is that from a normal viewing distance it's virtually impossible to see any difference between 720p and 1080i on a 50" set, let alone under 24".
     
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    Sure, the 24" Dell is 1920X1200 and believe the DVI input is HDPC compliant.
     
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    The Dell 24" 2407WFP is 1920x1200. You probably won't get the benefits of per pixel mapping. The screen size is 15x9, which slightly distorts shape.
    At least it offers HDCP-- finding plaintext DVI gear is a pain.
     
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    2407 is 16:10 and has fatter top and bottom black bars for 2.35-2.4:1 scope films.

    hte problem is i've read rumours that HDCP over DVI yields only 720p, but i can neither confirm nor deny that.
     
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    when you feed a 1080p input into the dell, does it stretch those 1080p lines out to fill 1200 rows?
     
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    i don't have 1. =). so someone who does can fill you in, but that stretching shouldn't happen. the display should be showing you whatever aspect ratio the player is set to. so it shouldn't stretch and fill 1200... nor should you want to.
     
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    I have a WXGA display. It stretches 720p material to 768p. It's not optimal. Maybe the Dell does things differently.
     
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    meaning you use it as a standalone HDTV right?

    cause if it's a PC, then the AR should all be correctly proportioned.
     
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    it's currently connected to a Samsung SIRT165 tuner and a OPPO 971H DVD player.
     

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