Displaying a 4:3 image on a 16:9 RPTV..

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  1. Tim_Mc

    Tim_Mc Auditioning

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    A salesman told me today that if you use a 16:9 RPTV to view regular 4:3 tv images that the black bars on the sides will burn-in to the screen and ruin the TV. Has anyone here had any experience with this? Thanks.
     
  2. Chris PC

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    Good question. Is there a way to avoid this?
    Some TV's will stretch the image sideways, but that doesn't look so nice, as I have seen it done.
     
  3. Henry Carmona

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    It is possible to burn in the bars on the sides, but if youve got your setting down (AVIA/Video Essentials), you shouldnt have to really worry too much.
    A good 16x9 will stretch a 4x3 image with very little distortion. My Toshiba 50H81 does wonders with 4x3 TV material. I never watch TV in 4x3 mode.
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    [Edited last by Henry Carmona on November 15, 2001 at 11:45 PM]
     
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    Yeah, well, I mean, the image is distorted because the dimensions are no longer correct. The horizontal is stretched. The proportions are correct, so it is watchable, and your brain gets used to it, but its not the greatest. Too bad they don't just broadcast 16:9 with the 4:3 area being the composed shot. They could base the broadcast on the 4:3 shot, so people with 4:3 see the picture ok, but also make sure the 16:9 doesn't show anything that is supposed to be out of shot stuff. Just broadcast something that works for both. Probably way too smart.
    I guess we need DTV or more specifically HDTV for 16:9.
    I know HDTV is higher resolution, but here's a silly question. Is HDTV broadcast in 16:9?
    [Edited last by Chris PC on November 14, 2001 at 06:59 PM]
     
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    HDTV, high definition, is 16:9 and DTV, digital tv, isn't. HDTV is DTV but DTV is not HDTV.
     
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    It took my wife and I only about 2 days to get used to watching regular TV in stretch mode. Now that's the only way we watch it. No big deal.
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    I never watch in 4:3 mode on my HD ready Mitsubishi... You do get used to stretch mode. I do watch as much high def. and DTV as possible though. (ShowTime HD, HBO HD, local HD)
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    That's cool. I guess I could get used to it, whenever the heck I get an HDTV sized TV or display [​IMG]
     
  10. Keith Plucker

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    I have a Tosh TW40X81. I tried the stretch mode myself and never really got used to it. I am much happier with the zoom mode. You loose a little top and bottom but the picture isn't out of whack. To each his own.
    -Keith
     
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    uh. I thought only light/bright colors burn in your screen. but then, I could be wrong.
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    Even if you use AVIA or Video Essentials to determine contrast you should still set it much lower to forestall uneven screen wear. My suggestion is under 50% for direct view and under 33% for RPTV/FPTV, tops. Then finish the calibrations with this setting.
    I never use stretch mode unless there are people sitting way off to the sides.
    If you are sure that the fundamental framing for a particular show is 16:9 inside a 4:3 area with filler material above and below, you can use the zoom setting.
    Other video hints: http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/video.htm
    [Edited last by Allan Jayne on November 15, 2001 at 06:32 AM]
     

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