Disney's Treasure Planet filmed in IMAX, will the 1.85:1 theater prints be matted?

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  1. Johnny G

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    Here's what imdb says under technical specs:-
    Laboratory
    Technicolor
    Film negative format (mm/video inches)
    35 mm
    Cinematographic process
    IMAX (70 mm prints)
    Spherical
    Printed film format
    35 mm
    70 mm (horizontal)
    Aspect ratio
    1.85 : 1
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    Does this mean the IMAX version will show the full frame unlike other Disney movies which have gone to the IMAX theater after the original theatrical release and end up being panned & scanned?
     
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    It will be shot 1.66:1 (like every recent Disney film except Atlantis), and shown 1.66:1 in Europe, on IMAX (mildly letterboxed), and on DVD.

    It will be matted 1.85:1 in the USA in regular theaters, but the animators have special guide lines on their animation paper that they draw their pencils on to show them where the 1.85:1 frame lies.

    If anything, the animators really compose for 1.85:1 but fill out the drawings to past 1.66:1. The ratios are close enough that it's not really a compromise.
     
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    Glad you made your post Michael, because a lot of current live action films are photographed to take into account both 1.85:1 and 1.33:1 (Standard TV) ratios. They are not panned and scanned (say as 2.35:1 films are).
     
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    Peter,

    The majority of live action films shot in 1.85:1 are not opened up for 4:3 but actually panned & scanned.

    The most popular process used the way you mention is by use of Super 35 film (for both 1.85:1 & 2.35:1 films) but this is in the minority.

    Michael,

    This doesn't look like the usual 5:3 Disney composition.

    According to imdb, two cinematographic processes are being used, IMAX film shows much more detail then other films, so what will be the ratio of the animation being filmed and which process will miss some picture?
     
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    Disney did the same thing with their full-screen IMAX prints of "Fantasia 2000".
    Six months later, they released a cropped 1.85:1 version to non-IMAX theatres and that's what appears on the DVD release.
     
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    Lately all of Disney's animated features have been shot and intended for the VistaVision ratio of 1.66:1. Even "Mary Poppins" was shot this way, but cropped for DVD to 1.85:1.

    1.85:1 is how I originally saw "Aladdin" in theatres, but I didn't know at the time it (and "Beauty And The Beast") was shot at VistaVision ratio.

    I think VistaVision is becoming some sort of standard for animated features, although there have been some exceptions..."Toy Story" 1 & 2 (1.78:1), and "Jimmy Neutron" (1.85:1).

    I believe the only way to see animated films as they truly were intended to be seen is in VistaVision.
     
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    Okay, here's a new IMAX-related question for Treasure Planet: Disney is promoting it as playing on "IMAX and Giant Screen Theaters". What, pray tell, is "Giant Screen" supposed to mean? Are they simply talking about a 35mm drive-in print, or are these "giant screen" exhibitions comparable to IMAX?

    Because, I'd really rather only go as far as Hartford (which has a "giant screen") to see this, as opposed to New York.
     
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    Jason The movie is in Imax it look's great and sounds great.If you see it seat in the back.
     
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    Um... Yes, it's in IMAX in most locations. The one in Hartford, CT - the closest "Giant Screen" showing Treasure Planet to Boston - is not, though. There are a few like that around the country, and I'm trying to ascertain whether they are some alternative large-format film, or just 35mm prints blown up large.
     
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    The use of the expression "Giant Screen Theatres" covers the other systems that compete with IMAX in the "Large Format" medium. These "giant screens" cannot use the name IMAX, as they don't utilise IMAX proprietary technology, but the idea is much the same.

    Opinions differ as to their quality relative to IMAX, but they are 70mm, large format systems, not 35mm. The film is commonly 8 perforation, not IMAX's 15. The image, in my opinion, in a "giant screen" theatre, is much better than 35mm, but nowhere near the sharpness and clarity of 15 perforation, 70mm film as seen at IMAX.
     

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