Disney & Miramax prepare to split

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  1. Chris

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    In this week's Entertainment Weekly, there was an article about this topic as well. Miramax has been shedding personnel in order to be lean and mean when their distribution deal with Disney expires.
     
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    So both Pixar and Miramax are out and much of the old animation staff had been cut back.

    Is M. Night under any type of contract with Beuna Vista? Even despite the lukewarm reception given to "The Village", it seems like he's their most bankable asset.
     
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    I was under the impression that it wasn't a distribution deal, but that Disney OWNS Miramax. What's likely to happen is that one or both of the Weinsteins will leave after their contract is up, leaving Disney with the Miramax brand and library and the Weinsteins free to start a new company or get hired on to run another major's boutique division. There had been talk that they may try to buy Miramax back from Disney, but that now looks unlikely.
     
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    Dreamworks bringing in the Weisteins to juice up their own small films effort? Holy Oscar-lock Batman! [​IMG]


    Yay, Disney will own Pixar's genius and Miramax's genius without the smelly creative teams there to get in the way. Now we can add shitting on those legacies to shitting on their own I suppose.

    Straight to video flicks like GoNY 2 and Shakespeare in Love, Again.

    And just imagine what the Miramax label will be like if Disney keeps it going? After all the bickering over their films being too edgy and such we can expect the most disgusting of all mixed breeds, the safe indepedent flick.


    Mike E has really done his share to buy up as much of the good things in Hollywood so that he can then piss on them later. I realize that in both cases these companies needed the money and the pairing, but in the end its like a deal with the devil where you lose your soul (or your life's work in this case).
     
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    I was kinda looking forward to Disney pushing for a straight to video "Kill Bill: A Christmas Extravaganza". [​IMG]
     
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    Quite the development! Seems Eisner is cleaning house before he leaves in what seems to be a move motivated by spite. I wonder if Eisner, between alienating Pixar, eliminating the animation department, and now firing the Weinsteins, is performing a "scorched earth" plan to create problems for his successor in an attempt to show Disney shareholders and board members what a mistake it was to drive him out.
     
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    Whoa! This is major news. I wonder if Disney is trying to shed weight for a possible take-over or something. If they lose Pixar as well, their financial future can't be looking that good. I know they have Touchstone, the theme parks, and merchandising up the wazoo,among other things, but losing these two companies won't be good for the bottom line.
     
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    If this keeps up, exactly WHAT will Disney be doing to be in business? No hand drawn animation films, no computer animation films, thanks to the screwing of Pixar, and now the Weinsteins.

    Gads, I'll bet Walt is turning over in his refrigerator!
     
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    Walt was cremated, but I digress...on the one hand, Walt would have swallowed his own tongue rather than see his art form of hand-drawn animation completely scuttled. On another hand, there is no way in hell he would have bought Miramax in the first place. Walt would be heavily involved with computer animation, heavily involved with multimedia and the internet, heavily involved with using the ABC network and home theater to open new revenue streams, heavily involved with urban planning and design...

    ...but Miramax? No, Walt never would have touched it, never would have even considered buying the comapny.
     
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    Sorry, Ernest. I could not resist referring to that old legend about Walt. [​IMG]

    Were Walt still around, or Roy in charge, I am sure the quality of the last 20 years or so would not have gone down the toilet.

    The hand drawn animation department would have been financed from Walt's own pocket, if he were still around. In fact, there were many times, if I recall the history correctly, that he did just that. Considering his love of innovation, and trying to do everything better, yes, he would have been up to his eyeballs in the computer animation as well.

    I don't know what, if anything, really drives Michael Eisner beyond the almighty buck, and he does not seem to be doing a good job pursuing that, either.

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    Walt was driven by a genuine, passionate love of and for art, hence priceless jewels like Fantasia, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Bambi, Dumbo, etc.

    Why do you say that Walt would not have touched Miramax? True, Walt considered himself a patriot, and probably would have viewed Fahrenheit 9/11 as nothing less than treason, but what else is there about Miramax he would have disapproved of so vehemently? As you can probably tell, I don't follow a studio name very closely.
     
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    Wait, so Disney's gonna keep the Miramax catalogue? Will Miramax be able to make sequels of the now-owned Disney films? (not that they would, I'm just being hypothetical.) I wonder how this will impact dvd releases (the Cold Mountain problem, etc).
     
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    Disney is keeping Miramax, period - the name, the catalog, the office space, the staff. It's just the Weinstein brothers who will be leaving the company.
     
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    Now that it is official that the Weinsteins are leaving Miramax:
    Yahoo Story Here

    Maybe the replacement heads will treat Hong Kong films correctly. Does anyone know of a complete list of all the HK films that they own the rights too?

    --Ian
     
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    I wouldn't hold my breath. Eisner and the dozen dwarfs will probably parachute a couple of bean counters into the top jobs at Miramax. They will probably "take care of business" and promptly eliminate anyone suffering from even an ounce of creativity. A lot of people from the "Weinstein years" had better polish their resumes. They are likely to need them.

    Not that I am defending the Weinsteins. I thought Miramax, under their tenure, did a particularly shitty job in promoting Miyazaki's Princess Mononoke.
     
  16. Ernest Rister

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    Why do you say that Walt would not have touched Miramax? True, Walt considered himself a patriot, and probably would have viewed Fahrenheit 9/11 as nothing less than treason, but what else is there about Miramax he would have disapproved of so vehemently? As you can probably tell, I don't follow a studio name very closely.

    Walt made family films, he built an empire on his form of entertainment, and you'll find quotes of his in the 60's where he makes it clear his tastes did not run in tune with overtly suggestive material, or material that celebrated violence, crime, drugs, etc. He thought such work was barely a notch above pornography, and he had great disdain for such material.

    Can you imagine Walt Disney ever giving the green light to purchase the production and distribution studio that made Priest, Kids, Pulp Fiction?

    No, he would have never touched Miramax with a 100' pole, and Eisner was stupid for inking the deal in the first place. Despite the Oscar wins, Disney never got the credit, it was all given to Harvey and Bob, and yet when Harvey and Bob did something outrageous, it was Disney that always caught the blame.
     
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    The N.Y. Times had an article today about Miramax's Sin City and Disney. Maybe some who suscribes to the NY Times on line can link us to the article.
     

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