Difficulty watching Ebert/Roeper!

Robert Crawford

Crawdaddy
Moderator
Patron
Joined
Dec 9, 1998
Messages
49,431
Location
Michigan
Real Name
Robert
Each week, I'm finding it more difficult to watch Ebert/Roeper show and it's not because of Roger Ebert. Roeper's attitude and taste in films just rubs me the wrong way. My feelings about him might be just me perception of him but I find him nothing more than a pompous know-it-all that in reality knows very little about film. His personal approach to how he presents his opinions needs serious work in my book. Furthermore, while some complain about Ebert's taste in films, you don't have to look very hard to find fault in Roeper's mostly negative opinion on film. Thanks for reading, I feel better now. I just had to vent a little about this guy. I'm sure others will disagree with me about him but I just can't stand to watch this guy any longer.
Crawdaddy
------------------
Peter Staddon: "I didn't say you can put 'Monkeybone' back!"
 

Ike

Screenwriter
Joined
Jan 14, 2000
Messages
1,672
I think it pretty much sums itself up when asked their favorite DVD's. Ebert said The Third Man: The Criterion Collection. Roeper said American Beauty: The Awards Edition. I think he sort of represents the common man's opinion. He, as far as I know, and what he presents on screen, has not studied film in depth, like Ebert. I like Ebert, even if I disagree with him, because his reviews usually are interesting to read, and he seems to have a knowledge of film.
But I don't get that impression from Roeper. He complained mainly about Dancer in the Dark because it was shot on digital, and had music sequences.
I don't hate the guy (I like that he and Ebert disagree a lot) although I do think he comes off badly when he's arguing with Ebert, who clearly has a clearer grasp on film than he does, but he has to. It's his job to fight with Ebert.
But I will say this-I hate his parting shot. Hate it, hate it, hate it. Cut it from the show, please!
 

BarryR

Supporting Actor
Joined
Jul 30, 2000
Messages
742
Location
Earth
Real Name
BARRY RIVADUE
I stopped watching the show when that pretty, intelligent brunette (I forget her name) didn't make the cut, though she was I think the closest competition as replacement. I can't stand Roeper either--he reminds me of a type I've always found unbearably smug.
 

Robert Crawford

Crawdaddy
Moderator
Patron
Joined
Dec 9, 1998
Messages
49,431
Location
Michigan
Real Name
Robert
I can't stand Roeper either--he reminds me of a type I've always found unbearably smug.
Barry,
Thank you that's the term I've been searching to call Roeper "unbearably smug"!
Crawdaddy
------------------
Peter Staddon: "I didn't say you can put 'Monkeybone' back!"
 

Henry Gale

Senior HTF Member
Joined
Jul 10, 1999
Messages
4,628
Real Name
Henry Gale
I agree.
Often at the end of their many disagreements I translate Roger's look of befuddlement as, "What was I thinking when I picked this Ken doll to replace Gene?"
 

Bruce Hedtke

Senior HTF Member
Joined
Jul 11, 1999
Messages
2,249
Only catching the show "occasionally", I get the same impressions. Roeper is just a movie watcher. He is no cinephile. The few shows I have seen, it was laughable to watch him try to square off with Ebert and offer up a dissenting opinion.
Bruce
------------------

Welcome aboard the Satellite of Love
 

Phil Kim

Stunt Coordinator
Joined
Aug 31, 1998
Messages
206
Well, I think the show WORKS because Ebert and Roeper are different. If you generally find yourself agreeing with Ebert, then that's good. He represents one side of the film-going audience. Roeper, on the other hand, represents the other extreme. I think this is why the team works.
Don't get me wrong. Roeper will never be Siskel. But Siskel, if you would recall, was like Roeper in many ways (his favorite film being Saturday Night Fever).
 

Jeff_A

Screenwriter
Joined
Mar 6, 2001
Messages
1,454
For me, it is not that I necessarily disagree with all of Roeper's opinions. I simply cannot stand how poorly he presents his opinions.

------------------
The Dark Tower

Fearless Vampire Killers (1967)?
 

Hubert

Second Unit
Joined
Mar 9, 2001
Messages
424
Well, I've always maintained that Roeper had no business sitting in the chair that Gene Siskel once graced. I agree about his smugness. Siskel was my favorite critic. I really liked him, but never really cared for Ebert. But Roeper, I don't not like at all.
 

Mitty

Supporting Actor
Joined
Jan 13, 1999
Messages
886
To express my opinion of Richard Roeper, I must invoke a Seinfeld-ism; he is a hipster dufus.
Except that he's not really that hip. His hipness exists primarily in his own mind.
The last thing the world needs is a hipster critic. Critics are, almost by definition, NOT hip. Criticism is about honesty, not artificial facades. Have you ever seen a "cool" critic? Is Ebert cool? Leonard Maltin? Harry Knowles?!?!?
I can't help but feel that Roeper is slamming the movies he feels he should be slamming, to keep up his imaginary street cred, rather than the ones he actually takes issue with, and his opinions are knee jerk, rather than well thought out.
I still watch, because I want to hear what Ebert has to say, but every week without exception something Roeper says makes me bristle.
------------------
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/uub/Forum9/HTML/007822.html
Scary Movie Challenge: 13, 12...9, 8 7 to go!
 

Chucky P

Supporting Actor
Joined
Jul 15, 2001
Messages
766
Location
Mound, MN
Real Name
Charles Paulsen
I've stopped watching Ebert/Roeper. One reason is that they switched networks and I forget to watch
and another is Roeper's I am right and you are wrong attitude with Ebert. Usually Roger ends the conversation with "Okay we disagree" and that's fine but just once I wish he will say something like "Why am I always wrong? Why can't you be the one who is full of sh*t."
 

AaronNWilson

Second Unit
Joined
Jan 28, 2001
Messages
451
Yeah I would have to say that their arguments can come off harsh at times. However Siskel seeme to be able to say anything to ebert and even make fun of his rotund shape. I guess these two just don't seem to gel that well.
Post Edited By Administrator-Do Not Repost!
Aaron
[Edited last by Robert Crawford on October 22, 2001 at 01:32 AM]
 

Lou Sytsma

Senior HTF Member
Joined
Nov 1, 1998
Messages
6,064
Real Name
Lou Sytsma
I agee Roeper needs to reign himself in. His reaction is overshadowing anything that he is saying.
------------------
Every man is my superior, in that I may learn from him.
MyHTSetup
 

Robert Crawford

Crawdaddy
Moderator
Patron
Joined
Dec 9, 1998
Messages
49,431
Location
Michigan
Real Name
Robert
Members,
I just edited three posts which were way off the mark regarding the subject matter of this discussion. Frankly, I don't give a hoot about Ebert or Roeper's sexual orientation because as someone alluded to earlier, it is not germane to this discussion. Please, heed my warning!
Robert Crawford
HTF Administrator
------------------
Peter Staddon: "I didn't say you can put 'Monkeybone' back!"
 

Dean DeMass

Screenwriter
Joined
Jun 30, 1997
Messages
1,826
I only catch the show once every few weeks now and I cannot stand Roeper. I've always liked Ebert and I tried to watch every week when it was Gene and Roger, but now I cannot stand to listen to Roeper speak. Everytime he says something I want to shove my fist in his mouth to shut him up.

I don't think Roeper could distinguish a good film from his own ass.

A good example of how much a bonehead Roeper is, when they reviewed Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Ebert liked the film because he "got" what Kevin Smith was doing. The film was a big in-joke and made fun of itself. Roeper kept saying that it wasn't. Even when Ebert spells it out for him, Roeper still spells it wrong.
-Dean-
------------------
My HT Equipment
"I've seen you and you are not cool."
[Edited last by Dean DeMass on October 22, 2001 at 07:14 AM]
 

Gary Tooze

Senior HTF Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2000
Messages
3,055
I think it would be quite difficult in finding a comparable contrarian ( word ? ) to Roger Ebert. I would love to have seen it be Rosenbaum, but I understand they don't get along ( or is it just a rumor ? ). Gene Siskel was the perfect foil, hence the success of the show's history. Yes, Roeper doesn't appear equipped with a strong enough conviction for his standpoints to administer and deep discussions... shame, but still I believe Roger can carry the show on his own... a female companion would have been nice to see ( like the lady who was there previously )... or someone like Mike D'Angelo... someone right out of the blue... witty, quick, young and opinionated... it would make it more fun.... I would like to see a reral radical change to the shows format... just to shake things up... still it's the best of its kind on the tube...
------------------
[email protected]
DVD COLLECTION CONTEST , My DVD Collection ,My Home Theatre
DVDBeaver's 15 Member choices of the TOP 111 DVDs available today!
 

Forum Sponsors

Forum statistics

Threads
344,882
Messages
4,723,525
Members
141,350
Latest member
conradfan