From what I read, The 24/7 title was for a 24 cross over with Die Hard. But Sutherland nixed it as he preferred to do his own franchise rather then dilute both. And in possibly the same article, Bruce Willis, who has a cameo in The Expendables, was really excited by the Stallone film and how hard edge it was. So yes, I think Willis is going for the R this time. I didn't know about The Expendables till I read about Die Hard 5. That film looks really interesting, from the casting to the execution. Edwin, as for the Die Hard 5, it could be like Bond. After the excess of Moonraker, they come back down to basics and do a For Your Eyes Only type of film.