Die Hard 4: Max Pain

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  1. Barry Woodward

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    I recently purchased a video game called Max Payne for the X-Box. The game is intense and has one of the best story lines I've even seen for a video game. The story behind Max Payne is a pretty dark one; a former NYPD cop, Payne comes home after work to find his family murdered by several drug junkies. After delivering swift and bloody justice to these drugged-up punks, Max Payne joins the DEA as an undercover agent to hunt down those responsible for the distribution of the drug, Valkyr. After only a few minutes into the game, Max Payne finds himself framed for murder and being pursued by the mob, the police and the government. So, like any cornered beast with nothing left to live for, Payne makes it his personal business to put those dealing the Valkyr drug permanently out of business. Wouldn't the story of Max Payne be perfect for a Die Hard sequel? Max Payne even looks like a younger Bruce Willis. It would take a great story to get Bruce Willis to do Die Hard 4 and I think this could be it. What do you think?
     
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    Yours is the first review of Max Payne I've read and it sounds great. I just might have to pick up a copy for myself.....
     
  3. Jason Harbaugh

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    There is already a movie based on Max Payne being lined out. I don't think it is in production yet.

    I agree that it is a great story line for a game. Quite disturbing at times too, like the whole dream sequence stuff.
     
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    I would've thought Mickey Rourke as Max Payne...
     
  5. James T

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    How aobut this guy as Max Payne...
    http://us.imdb.com/Name?Spence,+Sebastian
    I saw him on First Wave when was running around with his black leather jacket and pistol in his hand...I could have swore I saw Max Payne in action
     
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    I think all those involved with the Die Hard franchise, especially Bruce Willis, have stated that there will be no Die Hard 4.

    While were on the subject of Xbox, I noticed Game Cube goes for $150, are there any rumors of Xbox coming down to that price level?

    Regards,
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    I can't wait for the Max Payne movie. The game is possibly the best story driven game I have ever played. It would make a great movie "New York. Fugitive Undercover Cop. Nothing to Lose.". As far as who should play the lead, well, it would be cool if they could get the guy who played Max Payne in the graphic novel cut scenes. I'm not sure if that same guy did the voice acting also though, which was first rate.
     
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    I also thought that Max Payne looked A LOT like Mickey Rourke! A younger version of him.
     
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    The story sounds a little dark for a Die Hard movie. Bruce Willis' character is all about making wisecracks while blowing away the bad guys. The physical abuse he takes is always amusing because we know he's a tough guy who can handle it, e.g. walking over broken glass with bare feet. We're never truly mortified by what happens to him because despite all the bruises and cuts, we know it's all in a days work for him. For his family to be murdered would be too much of a departure from the series' tone as we'd have to seriously feel sorry for him, with the character never being able to get beyond that sorrow. He'd become more a Richard Kimble-type hero, morosely pursuing justice and his family's killers, somber with the realization that he can never bring his family back. That's just not something I want to see happen to John "Yippie-kay-yay motherf*cker" McClane.
     
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    Unfortunately, I think the Die Hard series is at an end. There have been several stories that have been pitched to Fox, but were all rejected. One involved the McClanes being passengers on a cruise ship...but then Fox announced Speed 2: Cruise Control.

    There was a really good storyline bouncing around several years ago...I think it was called Tears of the Sun...that they were trying to rewrite into a Die Hard script, but I haven't heard anything new on that in a few years. So, I guess we're stuck with 3...
     
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    Why bother framing Max Payne for murder when he already is one? After all, he delivered "swift and bloody justice" to the people who killed his family, and then decides to put other people "permanently out of business".
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    Sorry, but it sounds more like a Punisher rip-off than a potential John McClane story.
     
  14. Todd Terwilliger

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    When Bruce Willis was on Bravo's Inside The Actors Studio which was taped a few days prior to Sept. 11, he said he was done with the John McClain character.
     
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    Okay, you're going to think I'm crazy, but watch Greg Evigan in a movie called The Pawn (1998). The guy freaking is Max Payne. IIRC, the movie's storyline is even quite similar.
     
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    Yeah, you're crazy! Greg Evigan? "BJ and the Bear" Greg Evigan??? [​IMG]
    Seriously, the resemblance wouldn't surprise me at all. I never thought Tom Wopat could look like a Hell's Angel until I saw the Dukes of Hazzard reunion movie..
     
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    I always think of him as the guy from My Two Dads. I bet that girl's very cute now. Anyway, I don't know that he can act, but he did look the part in that one film. [​IMG]
     
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    I started another thread on this, but the story "Tears of the Sun" was supposed to be a Die Hard film. Now Willis is making it, but he's playing a SEAL team commander.
     
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    What is the "Tears of the Sun" story about?
     

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