Dialogue in Phantom Menace too soft?

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  1. Hong Tang

    Hong Tang Auditioning

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    Has anybody noticed that the dialogue in Phantom Menace coming from the center speaker is too soft compared to the sound effect from the front and surround speakers?

    I have a Marantz 680 and have to go to the setup menu and crank up the center channel to +6 db leaving the others at 0db before I could hear the dialogue without going deaf from the sound effect during the pod race.

    Any comments or advice?
     
  2. Harry Lincoln

    Harry Lincoln Stunt Coordinator

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    Hong, I have this disc and have not had any probs with the center level although the overall level of the disc is a bit lower than most other DVDs. Im assuming you system has been calibrated with a test DVD and an SPL meter?

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  3. Harry Lincoln

    Harry Lincoln Stunt Coordinator

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    Hong, just had an idea - use the THX optimiser, it is on the setup/language menu of the TPM dvd, run the test signal sequence and see if the center level is different from the others. There is a note on the disc that says this test is not intended for setting speaker levels but I have found the results on the front and center to be pretty close to the 'Ultimate DVD Platinum' that I used to calibrate my system.

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  4. greg_t

    greg_t Screenwriter

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    The level of the dvd is recorded very low. I personally find the dialog and music to be way too low. In reading a post by Bjoern Ray here on the HTF, he found that the dvd was about 7db lower on average than the laserdisc. You can do a search on his name to find all the posts relating to this topic.
     
  5. Jeremy Anderson

    Jeremy Anderson Screenwriter

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    The overall level is low, but if you've calibrated with Avia or VE and an SPL meter, dialogue should blend nicely with the rest of the mix. SW:TPM is definitely a good indicator of weak center channel response though. I've had several people complain about it, but after I calibrated their speakers, no more complaints. It's just one of those mixes that isn't tolerant of level differences because there's so much going on in each speaker.
     
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    My guess is your sub is way to hot. As long as you have voice matching mains and center you shouldn't have problems. Before I got properly calibrated I was running my sub super hot and therefore had to turn the overall volume down to keep from getting blown away by the sub. By doing this I could barely hear the center with all the dialogue. I was wondering why I couldn't hear the dialogue well with every movie??? After PROPERLY calibrating my system I can hear everything now. I find that I need to turn the overall volume higher than I used to but I brought the sub way down when I calibrated so now I don't get blown away by the sub and I get a great mix of sound effects and on-screen dialogue. Double-check your calibration.
     
  8. Lewis Besze

    Lewis Besze Producer

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    Yes the overal level is low but the dialog is exeptional in terms of inteligibility and spatial cohesivness.

    On a calibrated system the dialog never drowns out by the effects,or the music,even that this is a very dynamic soundtrack.
     

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