I know ther has been ALLOT of discussion on these particular receivers...I'm having trouble deciding on what to do, my situation is as follows... I was prepared for going the seperate route, Rotel seperates were the last components on my mind. However, the price point right now is more then budget allows. Also, I feel you get allot more in terms of "features" in a A/V reciever then out of seperates. I am looking at the Denon AVR-3803 and the AVR-4802, the difference in price is $1000 CAD. Is the THX certified and extra features justifiable to the price? does the 4802 have allot more features? Also, How would the 4802 compare in terms of SQ to say a pair of Rotel seperates, It looks like a pretty nice receiver, I seen one up close and they are very VERY classy looking, and built like a tank. Another question I have is, are the denon recivers more reliable then H/K's? My impression is the AVR-4802 is a VERY high end receiver, and while I know seperates are superior, this thing come damn close and this is about as good as it gets for A/V receivers, am I right? Thanks!