Levesque
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I just receive my new Denon DVD-3800, with a built date of August, and a serial number over xxx2000. So no firmware update needed. I was using a "old" JVC SA-XV70BK progessive scan player. My TV is a Toshiba 65HDX82 (no hiss, no ghosting, an incredible TV...don't listen to everything bad you ear about this TV. This set is one of the best out there).
I've first listen to Panic Room (Super Bit) and Lord of the Ring (again...). Was able to listen to The Thing (one of my favorite horror movie). 3 film in a row, 6 hours straight. With father-in-law and wife.
It's not a review. Only my first impression. My wife ("19inches TV is more then enough" type) didn't believe the difference between the picture of the Denon and my "old" JVC XV-SA70BK. The PQ is in a completely different league. I always tought that a DVD player is a DVD player, but I was wrong.
I'm flying on my 150 hours with my new Toshiba 65HDX82 and I was really dissappointed with the "focus" of the background (everything in "front" was in focus, but the background was "blurred") when listening to any DVD, and I was tweaking the TV like hell...but the weak link was my JVC DVD player, even after hours of tweaking with AVIA, etc)! With the Denon, everything, even the smallest thing in the background is incredibly clear and I now see all the details I was missing...
So for people out there that think that a source is a source, you are WRONG. If my wife can clearly see a difference without me pointing out to it, it's because it's a HUGE difference. He, she didn't see a difference in sound between Radio Shack speakers for the computer and the new Studio-40!!! so imagine...
I am really trying hard to see any chroma bug, listening to Toy Story 1 and 2 (podium scene), Monster Inc, but I don't see any bug here. For the Y/C delay I don't even know what to look for!!! Can someone point me to the good AVIA test? PQ is really that much better then my JVC, and this player had receive good reviews everywhere.
Layer change are so fast, and menu surfing is REALLY fast. I was having a hard time surfing the Dinosaur DVD menu (was really really slow).
Out of the box, the Denon, without any tweaking, gives an incredible picture. After tweaking, it's like I just change my TV to!!
I was seeing a big difference between my HD channels and film on my JVC, but with the Denon, the gap is a lot smaller between DVD and HD.
The Denon was open for around 6 hours, non stop playing, 3 films in a row, and the disks where normally warm, like in the JVC. So not a single freezing, and normal temp. Maybe this new batch got the freezing under control with a cooler temp? I don't know. But it is to soon to say that my player is freezing free...
On the audio side, the Denon is making my Rotel RMB-1095 really shine. Better channel separation. I'm hearing things that my JVC was not at all revealing. The voices are smoother, female voices are a real improvement, no sibilance anymore on high pitch female voices. Gladiator on DTS-ES glory is really impressive on the Denon. The background music in LOTR is different, more "scary", more "moody" and really different then with the JVC. It's sounding more "theater-like" for lack of a better descriptive term. More "around me". Even my father in law is able to ear the difference, so no placebo brain adjustment here.
DVD-Audio is finally what I was searching for. With the JVC, DVD-Audio was good, that's it. I was not really liking it. The "bah, it's a little bit better than CD-ROM" attitude. But Riding with the King, A night at the opera (Queen), Hotel California are simply INCREDIBLE now. Now I understand the buzz around the new format.
Sorry for the long review. I'm an average Joe-Six-Pack, and I didn't compare the DVD-3800 with any Arcam, Krell or even Panasonic player. It's my humble opinion. But I think that Denon deserve recognition for this kind of quality build, picture quality and sound quality. I think that the new August units are really improved. No firmware update to do. Just a beautiful picture.
If someone could tell me how to check the Y/C dealy with AVIA I could post the result. I'm really surprise at how my unit run cools. I tought DVDs where burning in this player from what I have read on different forums. After 6 hours of playing non-stop, The Thing was only a bit warm to the touch, like my computer DVD-player or my JVC.
Now I'm a "buy a better source" believer.
I've first listen to Panic Room (Super Bit) and Lord of the Ring (again...). Was able to listen to The Thing (one of my favorite horror movie). 3 film in a row, 6 hours straight. With father-in-law and wife.
It's not a review. Only my first impression. My wife ("19inches TV is more then enough" type) didn't believe the difference between the picture of the Denon and my "old" JVC XV-SA70BK. The PQ is in a completely different league. I always tought that a DVD player is a DVD player, but I was wrong.
I'm flying on my 150 hours with my new Toshiba 65HDX82 and I was really dissappointed with the "focus" of the background (everything in "front" was in focus, but the background was "blurred") when listening to any DVD, and I was tweaking the TV like hell...but the weak link was my JVC DVD player, even after hours of tweaking with AVIA, etc)! With the Denon, everything, even the smallest thing in the background is incredibly clear and I now see all the details I was missing...
So for people out there that think that a source is a source, you are WRONG. If my wife can clearly see a difference without me pointing out to it, it's because it's a HUGE difference. He, she didn't see a difference in sound between Radio Shack speakers for the computer and the new Studio-40!!! so imagine...
I am really trying hard to see any chroma bug, listening to Toy Story 1 and 2 (podium scene), Monster Inc, but I don't see any bug here. For the Y/C delay I don't even know what to look for!!! Can someone point me to the good AVIA test? PQ is really that much better then my JVC, and this player had receive good reviews everywhere.
Layer change are so fast, and menu surfing is REALLY fast. I was having a hard time surfing the Dinosaur DVD menu (was really really slow).
Out of the box, the Denon, without any tweaking, gives an incredible picture. After tweaking, it's like I just change my TV to!!
I was seeing a big difference between my HD channels and film on my JVC, but with the Denon, the gap is a lot smaller between DVD and HD.
The Denon was open for around 6 hours, non stop playing, 3 films in a row, and the disks where normally warm, like in the JVC. So not a single freezing, and normal temp. Maybe this new batch got the freezing under control with a cooler temp? I don't know. But it is to soon to say that my player is freezing free...
On the audio side, the Denon is making my Rotel RMB-1095 really shine. Better channel separation. I'm hearing things that my JVC was not at all revealing. The voices are smoother, female voices are a real improvement, no sibilance anymore on high pitch female voices. Gladiator on DTS-ES glory is really impressive on the Denon. The background music in LOTR is different, more "scary", more "moody" and really different then with the JVC. It's sounding more "theater-like" for lack of a better descriptive term. More "around me". Even my father in law is able to ear the difference, so no placebo brain adjustment here.
DVD-Audio is finally what I was searching for. With the JVC, DVD-Audio was good, that's it. I was not really liking it. The "bah, it's a little bit better than CD-ROM" attitude. But Riding with the King, A night at the opera (Queen), Hotel California are simply INCREDIBLE now. Now I understand the buzz around the new format.
Sorry for the long review. I'm an average Joe-Six-Pack, and I didn't compare the DVD-3800 with any Arcam, Krell or even Panasonic player. It's my humble opinion. But I think that Denon deserve recognition for this kind of quality build, picture quality and sound quality. I think that the new August units are really improved. No firmware update to do. Just a beautiful picture.
If someone could tell me how to check the Y/C dealy with AVIA I could post the result. I'm really surprise at how my unit run cools. I tought DVDs where burning in this player from what I have read on different forums. After 6 hours of playing non-stop, The Thing was only a bit warm to the touch, like my computer DVD-player or my JVC.
Now I'm a "buy a better source" believer.