Denon DVD-2900 may have chroma bug (1 Viewer)

[Haris Ellahi]

Well, according to this guy, it does.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=256901

 

[HarryR]

Well, my RP91 was stolen at Christmas. I really have been wanting a universal player and knew about the 2900. I really thought they would have all the issues hammered out but he we are talking about the chroma bug and bass management.

If these issues are not resolved I cannot see spending 900 on this player when I can buy an RP91 for 300-400 and just buy a separate SACD later.

 

[Jeff Adams]

Harry, how is the video performance on the RP91?

 

[Dzung Pham]

I doubt that it's the chroma bug. As already noted by the original poster, it's probably a different issue. I would wait until a more reliable source such as Don Munsil or Stacey Spears to make a definitive statement about the Chroma issue.

 

[Marc_E]

Yeah definatly wait for a more reliable source than that screw ball...wait.that's me! I may have jumped the gun a bit. It definatly looked like the bug but it may be the other issue. I am going to take a look at non-disney discs that are know for the bug and see tonight.
Marc (FREAK!)

 

[Jeff Adams]

Marc,
You almost made me disregard the 2900. Thanks a lot! Just kidding, I really HOPE this player does not have a chroma issue, I have been waiting for this player for a while and hope it performs the way it should.

 

[Dzung Pham]

Sorry FREAK! Hope you didn't take offense, but I think you'll agree that Spears and Munsil are a more reliable source than just about anyone on this issue! I do appreciate hearing the comments on the player.

 

[Michael St. Clair]

Why the hostility?

 

[Don Munsil]

That's very kind. Thanks. I just posted a pretty complete rundown on what's going on with the 2900 on AVS Forum, in the thread referenced above. The short version is that it has a chroma-bug-like issue with alternating progressive flag material. Unfortunately, this material is pretty common. You can't really call it a bug, because they're following the spec to the letter, but it's still not up to the standards set in this area by the best chipsets.

Don

 

[HarryR]

Jeff, the video was just fine on the RP 91. The audio was adequate IMO. Heck, if they could have just added SACD to the RP91 I would jump all over it.

 

[KeithH]

Don said:

You can't really call it a bug, because they're following the spec to the letter, but it's still not up to the standards set in this area by the best chipsets.

Still disappointing given that Denon Jeff said that Denon's design engineers were given a green light to make the '2900 free of flaws that plagued previous Denon players.

 

[John Kotches]

Keith,

Repeat this, ad nauseum:
There is no perfect DVD player.....
There is no perfect DVD player.....



Regards,

 

[KeithH]

John, I just can't get myself to say it. I tried and tried and tried, but I can't do it.

So, when is Denon going to initiate a full-scale recall of the '2900?

 

[RAF]

FREAK,

I've adjusted the title of this thread to include the word "may" to better reflect your position on this (ala other cyber venues).

 

[RAF]

There is no perfect DVD player.....

Amen to that, John. As much as I like some of the features on my RP-91 I find it most annoying that it does not display time remaining on Videos.


And, like all products involved in our common "affliction" the RP-91 filled a niche for me at the time and now the 2900 will fill a slightly different niche. With the Denon 2900 I'm adding Multi-channel SACD (I own a Sony 9000 for 2 channel SACD and that will now move upstairs). Also, the 2900 allows me to use the one set of 5.1 analog inputs that are available on my Outlaw 950 to play both DVD-A and SACD MC. The bass management issues apparently are non-issues if one has both small speakers (M&K 150's) and an Outlaw 950 (jury still out on that until I get some real world experience, but people who have come through in the past assure me that this is not a problem). I'll keep the RP-91 in the system for now since the auto-aspect feature is nice, particularly for the supplemental discs where material routinely goes between anamorphic, non-a, etc.

I'm hoping that some of the supposed issues with the 2900 are ironed out but none of them appear to be deal killers in my situation. And, as previously noted, this is just another step on the long path toward the evasive AV HT nirvana.

Comes with the territory.

And like you said, nothing's perfect. Instead of nit-picking, I prefer niche-filling.

 

[Marc_E]

Thanks for the title change. I think I jumped a little too fast to report and I do totally agree that I can't even be counted as high as amateur in regards to player rating in comparison to the fantastic people at Secrets! I got a PM from Denon Jeff indicating they are working on it. I am hoping for a CD to pop in to correct it.
Time will tell...
How is the secrets review going?
Make no mistake. I LOVE this player! It is fantastic other than this pseudo error. I watched most of The Hunt for Red October and was very impressed (don't forget FREAK!=sub-amateur). On the title credits the 'Red October' was very red and no problem there. The scene where the LA class sub bridge turns all red was fine too if that is a supporting indication that the regular chroma bug is not there.
Marc

 

[Parker Clack]

So then what is the audio section for playback of MC SACD and DVD-A like performance wise?

Parker

 

[CurtisC]

Well,for me the dvd-a was a bummer as 25 minutes into play my 2900 started skipping,then said, no play.I tried another and after a few songs same thing,then another,same thing.I should say this could just be a faulty unit,not a design flaw,I hope.It also sounds like a microwave oven,it does play cd's fine.By the way dvd-a and cd did sound quite good,never made it to sacd, and video is not too important to me.

 

[Daniel Mai]

CurtisC,
I had the same problem with a few disc last Friday and it got worst on Tuesday, it wouldn't play any DVD-A or DVD-V at all. SACD still works. Packed it up and traded for another unit on Wednesday and everything works fine now for 2 days. I love this player for both A&V. You gotta try SACD. Keep checking the symptoms!!

 

[CurtisC]

Thanks Daniel,thats what I'll do.