Denon AVR-5803 in stock at Crutchfield for $4300. (1 Viewer)

[KeithH]

I don't know if this is old news since I was away on business for six days, but Crutchfield has the Denon AVR-5803 in stock for $4300. I didn't know it was going to sell for more than the '5800.
Here is a link to the '5803 at Crutchfield:
http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...VR5803&o=m&a=0
By the way, Crutchfield still has the '5800 for full price ($3800).

 

[Juan_R]

Crutchfield is a great place to see specs and stuff, but all there stuff is way overpriced.

 

[KeithH]

Juan said:

Crutchfield is a great place to see specs and stuff, but all there stuff is way overpriced.

In general, I agree with you. However, with Denon products, it is not always easy to get a discount when you are dealing with an authorized dealer. Crutchfield is the only authorized Denon mail-order dealer. You can't buy Denon products from reputable discount mail-order dealers like J&R Music World, OneCall, and Oade Bros. Those three dealers are authorized for all the merchandise they sell, but they do not sell Denon products. Many brick-and-mortar Denon dealers will sell the '5803 for $4300 as well. I know that Tweeter's prices almost always match Crutchfield's, for example. If you want to get the '5803 for less than $4300, you will have to buy through an unauthorized dealer, or you had better have a good rapport with a Denon dealer.

 

[elMalloc]

Thank god you didn't say "only" $4300.

 

[KeithH]

elMalloc said:

Thank god you didn't say "only" $4300.

That reminds me of the catalogs I get in the mail from Audio Advisor. They put "Only" before the price of every item in the catalog, from a $25 pair of cables to a $3000 amplifier. It's especially ridiculous considering that they discount very few items.

 

[RichardMA]

In general, I agree with you. However, with Denon products, it is not always easy to get a discount when you are dealing with an authorized dealer. Crutchfield is the only authorized Denon mail-order dealer. You can't buy Denon products from reputable discount mail-order dealers like J&R Music World, OneCall, and Oade Bros. Those three dealers are authorized for all the merchandise they sell, but they do not sell Denon products. Many brick-and-mortar Denon dealers will sell the '5803 for $4300 as well.

Just wait 6-8 months. By then big price cuts will have

taken place, it will get replaced and it won't

be worth half what was paid. Whereas a decent separate

preamp from a good company will still retain a good portion of it's value so if you decide to replace it, you won't loose nearly as much.

 

[Alex Yang]

Keith H.
Hi my name is Alex Yang and I work for Nomura Securities @ 2 World Financial Center (Ground Zero), three blocks away from J&R Music World and I just finished auditioning their BOTH the Pioneer 49TX and DENON AVR-5803, not only is J&R Authorized but they are also selling the 5803 for only $3299.00...
I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on this unit by the end of next week...
Also if you go to Denon's website, you'll find more than Crutchfield as authorized Internet retailers...
Here's the link:
http://www.denon.com/dealers/dealers.asp?l=1
6th Avenue Electronics, and even Sears is listed as authorized Denon...
-Alex

 

[KeithH]

Alex,
Thanks for the info. I was not aware that 6th Avenue Electronics was authorized to sell Denon products online. I never considered Sears. I know they sell some Denon gear in the stores, but not the "good stuff".
I especially appreciate the info. about J&R. I know that they don't sell Denon gear online or by mail. The only Pioneer Elite component that I have ever heard of them selling by mail is the DV-47A SACD/DVD-Audio player. As far as I know, selling Pioneer Elite gear by mail is a no-no, so I am surprised that J&R is doing it.
I've only been to J&R's brick-and-mortar store once and didn't look at their receiver selection. I was not aware that they had Denon and Pioneer Elite models. Furthermore, I did not think that as an authorized dealer, they would discount those brands in the store. Interesting.
Richard,
I agree with you. While the flagship receivers like the '5803, Pioneer Elite '49TX, B&K '307, etc. are excellent components, were I to spend that much, I would look into separates. I figure I would get a multi-channel amp that would serve me well for a long time to come and would only need to upgrade the pre/pro every so often.

 

[Alex Yang]

Keith H.,
Well, I technically, I never asked my salesperson Aaron Elin, if he sells mail order... J&R is a large VERY large retail store front that encompasses one entire NYC block!!!
Actually I should ask about that I was planning on "shipping" out to NJ instead of walking out the store with it and paying an additional $240.00 (8.25%) NYC Sales tax... :frowning:
When I did work for J&R around 15 years ago during college, certain items were marked as "IN STORE" purchase only no mail order, so MAYBE both the DENON and PIONEER are not available for mail order!!!!
But the hometheaterforum as it is, is a great community and I'll be more than happy to "help" out if they are interested in purchasing such a unit... )) Right Evan S.???
I LOVE this forum!!!
-Alex

 

[Evan S]

Alex, seeing as you work in the securities industry, perhaps my helping you with purchases will lead you to help me find a new job. You know, the old I'll scratch your back and you scratch mine deal?
Seriously though...always looking to offer my .02.
Thanks for the kind words. Funny, for it was KeithH who pointed me in the right direction regarding my Sony 555ES purchase in December. Now if I could only find some decent SACD's that tickle my fancy!!! Small world.

 

[Dmitry]

If you follow this GoodGuys link you can get AVR-5803 for $4299 - 10% off and free shipping, no sales tax. They are also authorized resellers and have B&M stores where you can take the receiver for service or exchange. Sale ends today.
P.S. I'm not affiliated with the Good Guys.

 

[Alex Yang]

Evan,
I'm assuming you got my voicemail a from today????! I'll be MORE than glad to help you out, I believe you were going to send me a resume???? Or are you too busy enjoying your AVM-20 with so much free time on your hands!!!! )
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Dmitry,
J&R Music World is a FULLY authorized Denon dealer, I'm able to purcahse the Denon 5803 for way WAY below the Goodguys price of 10% off of $4299... Did I mention really low!!!!
-Alex
BTW, I now work for a major Investment bank called Nomura Securities in Downtown NYC, NO affiliation with J&R whatsoever.... )))

 

[Dmitry]

Alex, I was not implying that J&R is not an authorized dealer, just stating that the Good Guys is one as well. The only benefit of buying from them is that you can take it to a store next door for exchange should something go wrong with it and those unfortunate people outside New York don't have that ability with J&R :frowning:

 

[Alex Yang]

Dmitry,

You're in luck and anyone else, if interested? I'm willing to lend a helping hand to help anyone purchase a Denon 5308 and ship it out for them...

Why would I do this you ask?!????!?

Basically, to score points with the salesperson, and to get better pricing on the unit for myself (if I decide to get Denon instead of AVM20, Evan S. know's how long I've been sitting on the fence!!!)

-Alex

 

[RichardMA]

Just remember one thing if buying from a non-authorized

(check the Denon website for warnings about warranties)

dealer; You may save a couple hundred or so (not really

much considering the unit costs $4200) but it is a very

complex piece of hardware and repair costs from Denon

are likely $85 per hour plus a few weeks wait.

Unless you can pocket at least $500 under what a registered

dealer can sell it to you for, it's not worth looking for

grey market bargains.

 

[Tony Meconiates]

Alex,
Fellow I-banker here Is that price quote you got come with any discounts? The reason I ask is that my bank has a disocunt employee purchase program with J&R - it depends on the product, but I can get up to 10% off (cover NYC taxes?)
BTW, I used to work at 60 Wall, since Jan. I am in midtown.

 

[Alex Yang]

Tony,
The price is the regular "sticker" price on the unit WITHOUT haggling/negotiations.... Incredible... When you get a chance head on down, your JAW will drop too when you see the price tag...
-Alex

 

[Alex Yang]

Richard,

Could't agree with you more, don't buy from an unauthorized dealer otherwise any and all repairs will be out of pocket expense at $$$/hour and $$$/parts...

-Alex

 

[KeithH]

Dmitry, there is one problem with Good Guys. They don't ship outside of their region. So, if you live on the east coast, for example, they won't ship to you.

 

[Tony Meconiates]

Alex,

Cool. I am going to head down tomorrow afternoon. I will let everyone know how it goes.