Denon AVR-4802 vs Outlaw 950/7100

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  1. Sal Conigliaro

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    Anyone have any experience with the Denon 4802 vs the Outlaw 950/7100 combo?

    The Denon has more sound processing features (THX certified), but the
    Outlaw has more power (200W x 7 vs 125W vs 7).

    I really like my 4802. Just pondering a separates upgrade.....

    Sal
     
  2. Yogi

    Yogi Screenwriter

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    If you really like your 4802 then stay that way. This will be the best piece of advice you will ever receive. Believe me once you are into this hobby and a couple of years down the road you will be wishing you had listened to me.

    Rule of thumb: If you are happy and content with your present system dont even think of upgrading.
     
  3. Reece

    Reece Stunt Coordinator

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    Why not just add an amp to your 4802 set-up. I have the same receiver and I found a Parasound 2205at open box sale and it gave the 4802 all the power it needed to bring my system alive.
     
  4. Peter Loan

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    The Outlaw 7100 amp is 100x7 @ 8ohms. I agree with Yogi though. If you are happy with the 4802, then stick with it. Personally, I don't think the THX processing modes are very useful but the 4802 is no doubt a great piece of equipment. I'm content with my Outlaw 950 and won't be upgrading anytime soon.
     
  5. Sal Conigliaro

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    Yeah, I know the slippery slope of 'upgraditis'. I was toying with adding two of the Outlaw 'M' blocks for my L/R mains, too. That probably makes the most sense.

    Sal
     
  6. Bob_M

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    >Rule of thumb: If you are happy and content with your present system dont even think of upgrading. <

    What a great rule, Can imgaine Sal switching to the Outlaw combo, and then ground loop strikes or something else happens.

    >Denon 4802 vs the Outlaw 950/7100 <

    I don't have the golden ears so I rely on S&V to help me evaluate gear. More out of curiosity than anything else since I am happy with my Yam 2095 and would not notice a difference if I switched equipment. I can't remember if the 4802 was evaluated by S&V but I would bet any Denon that has been on their lab bench has beat the 950 hands down in noise measurements. I would also bet the amps in the 4802 would give the 7100 a run for it's money. I have noted the 1050 and 950 have both been evaluated by S&V but none of the Outlaw amps have been submitted. I would much enjoy reading a review of one of the Outlaw amps.

    Bob
     
  7. Ted Pugh

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    Sal,

    I currently own the Denon 4802 and like yourself I have been thinking about upgrading this piece. Rather than spend a whole lot of money I went and bought the B&K 200.5 amp and used the 4802 as a pre/pro. You should start out this way and see if you like the difference it makes. I think the 4802 will sound just as good if not better than the Outlaw combo. I though the test bench agrees. The amp really did help out my sound and opened up a whole new can of worms with the upgraditis. Just my 2 c worth.

    Ted
     
  8. Jed M

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    Bob, here is a link to a review of the 7100. This isn't S&V but I figure Secrets is pretty well respected.
     
  9. Yogi

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    Secrets is a better publication IMHO than S&V.
     
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    Sal:

    If you are happy with the features of the 4802 I agree that adding a few Outlaw monoblocks or the 750/770 power amps would be your best choice. You would get the sound you are used to with the Denon but with a lot more head room.

    The 950 is a great preamp and I recommend it without reservation to anyone wanting to go the separates route. But the 4802 is a great unit and adding more power in the way of a power amp or monoblocks would just be icing on the cake.

    Parker
     
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    There is a review in this month's Home Theater Magazine of the 950 and 770 combo. In their tests, the amp beats it's ratings.
     
  13. Jaime B

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    Sal:

    You own one excellent A/V Receiver. Got some fair advice in this thread, although too focused on the Outlaw products. There is one combo mentioned here that I know kicks-ass 'cause I've heard the amp in full swing, it is the Parasound HCA 2205A.

    Although I posted somewhere else I'm planning to add a Rotel 1075 to my Yamaha DSP-1, at almost twice the price, the Parasound is a blast! Having said that, we all have our sonic preferences.

    Enjoy.

    JaimeB
     

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