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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Chuck C, Jan 2, 2002.
Secret's has done it again:
on a personal note...donate money to me.
Secret's does it again!
1) And you can get a 4802 for a street price of $1700 - $1900 too!
2) And, it has DPL II (and DTS-ES), *now*, unlike the $3200 Anthem pre-amp, that you have to spend another $300 and wait about 4 more months for the upgrade...
3) And, the reviewer specifically pointed out that it does have at least 1 sound field that supports a 6.1 speaker system for "std" DD/DTS 5.1 DVDs.
4) And, doesn't seem to have the problem that Onkyo has with dropouts, and the noise (and other problems) that the x200 line from Marantz has.
Dang, I wish Denon would do another pre/pro...
Re-reading the review, I found it interesting that the reviewer didn't evaluate or mention what I consider to be one of the 4802, and for that matter the 5800, strongest attributes, "Pure Direct Mode".
However his observation and evaluation of the improvement good separate amps bring to the table reconfirmed my experiences as well.
Tempting. That is the first time I have seen a receiver used as a pre/pro rated comparable to a fairly high end pre/pro.
Cost aside, would the 4802 or the 950 be the better choice?
How much heat do on-board amps produce if they are not driving a load?
How are you?!
You own or have owned the Denon 4802, Sony DA5ES, and Onkyo 989 right? Can you rate/rank them in terms of:
1) sonic prowess as a prepro: AC3, DTS, DPL2 surround processing, resolution, steering, dynamics.
2) overall user friendliness: setup, flexibility, menus.
I don't really care about 2 channel performance, internal amplification, or differences in extra features (ie, built-in ac3 demod, two 5.1/7.1 inputs, etc).
I'm using the 4802 as a sort of pre/pro in my main system now. I say sort of pre/pro because I'm using external amps for the front stage (mains & center) and using the built in amps of the 4802 for the surrounds and back channels. This seems to take some stress away from the 4802, or any other receiver I've used, and allows it to drive the surrounds effortlessly.
In my experience with the 4802, it runs fairly cool even when using all the onboard amps.
I don't own the Onkyo 989 but I do own the 898.
I have been rotating the 898, DA5ES and the 4802 through my system for about a month now. I'm getting good at hooking up and unhooking
They are each excellent performers, it's just that the 4802 has proven to be a little more excellent than the others.
It's almost painful when the 4802 isn't in there, almost.
Thanks Geo. Now, I need to find out how close the prepro section of the 898 is to my THX Ultra 989 (which still is the only proven upgradeable receiver to date!), and if HK's Logic 7 sounds better than DPL2. I too use external amps to drive my mains and rears (gotta love those citations!).
Does the 4802's remote indicate volume level?
After reading the review I was in full agreement......especially about spending hours on the set up. I love my 4802 just wish it was little more user friendly.
Thanks for the info Geo...