Well, I'm upgrading from the Denon AVR-2302 and am wanting to take advantage of these new fangled DTS-MA and DD-TrueHD formats that my new PS3 slim will kick out for my Blu-ray movies. I rarely use the receiver for music, mostly video games and Blu-ray movies. I have Swan Diva Speakers and a SVS sub (7.1 set-up) and a 60" 1080p Sony LCoS rear projection. And when I look at the open box buys or new buys it looks like these two receivers are the two I'm looking into. I might like to play around with pro logic IIz, but not too big of a deal for me right now. Probably can't go over $650 in range. And as usual I don't buy anything unless asking my friends here for help! I love the warm sound that my current Denon produces and I've heard that the Onkyo has a similar sound, but I'm working off of opinions that I read back in 2002, so I'm assuming that some things may have changed since then. At one point in time the Faroudja DCDi Cinema™was the go to technology for dvd players, and noticed that the Onkyo is still sticking with Faroudja, but I noticed that Denon is now with Anchor Bay VRS ABT-2010, anyone see any differences or have opinions? So, any thoughts/suggestions/help is (as always) greatly appreciated! Thank you all so much in advance! I can't thank yall enough! In Trinity, Grady H.