Only time will tell.... Well I went to a local shop and brought my music and compared a couple of recievers.Ok well mainly the HK 430 and Denon 985s as they fall in the same price bracket. I had already took home a HK230 a while back and thought that was better than my Pioneer 811s/parasound combo - HK was hooked up to parasound as well.. After listening to tunes for around 2 hours I decided to give the Denon a try. I also currently have the Yamaha HTR 5760 at home and I am going to try and get the Pioneer Elite 53tx. I am going to do lots of testing this weekend(off Friday - Monday) with music and movies: Pioneer Yamaha Denon Pioneer Elite Pioneer with parasound amp Yamaha with parasound amp Denon with parasound amp(not sure there will be a difference) Pioneer Elite - no parasound This may help others that are looking to buy any of these items. I will also try and post some pics this weekend.