Denon 3802 question

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  1. Ben McGuire

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    I'm trying to decide between picking up a 3802 now or waiting for the 1803 and saving a few bucks. I was wondering if the 3802 can do Dolby Digital EX. It mentions something about Dolby Digital 6.1 Matrix in the features on the Denon website. Is that essentially DD EX? I am trying to make sure my next receiver supports every format possible (I currently have a 3600 with no DTS). Also, is there any advantage in 7.1 over 6.1? Do both surround speakers in a 7.1 setup play the same thing during playback of 6.1 material?
     
  2. itai

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    the 3802 decodes dd, dd-ex, dts, dts-es, dpl2 and direct (no processing, straight from source feed, great for cd music) and has 7 amps for a working, out the box 7.1 setup.
    the two rear speakers get a mono signal, and imo you can get along with a single one. i run two, just to make it nicly symetric!...
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  3. Donnie Seals

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    Actually, the 3802 can't do Dolby Digital EX, only DTS-ES. You can however support a 6.1 and 7.1 track, but it's not officially DD EX. This is according to the manual.
     
  4. Mark_Sparks

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    That was just a copy right issue with Dolby Labs. According to a Denon rep I spoke to, that issue was cleared up in January 2002, and the new 3803 will have the DD EX display. So Denon's 6.1 is exactly the same as DD EX, just a vanity display issue.
     
  5. Zacha R

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    Apparently, the difference between the two is that the unmarked 02 series version uses normal Pro-Logic centre channel decoding. With the later models marked as 'Dolby EX', the rear centre channel is decoded with Pro-Logic II, which apparently has better centre steering.

    This is the theory.
     
  6. itai

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    well, when you play LTOR, which is dd-ex, the denon's front display changes to 6.1, and it feeds the back surrounds.
    thats dd-ex decoding, isnt it?
     
  7. JeremySt

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    Basically, yes. But "Dolby Digital EX" is a copyrighted term. Denon did not use it, instead opting to call it "6.1 Matrix Surround". It is identical to DD EX.
     
  8. Zacha R

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    So Itai, just to clarify something here, you're saying that the 3802 can read, and respond to, the 'Dolby EX' flag in a 5.1 Dolby mix?
     
  9. itai

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    can and does! LTOR plays 6.1, 3802 responds to flag as usual and all! you hit play and the display turns to:"6.1"!
    as JeremySt and others said, its a copyright issue of denon having to pay dolby some millions (?...) so they can use this decoding legaly.
    probably have'nt "made it time" and they shipped the 3802 without dolby's aproval or something like that, (just my imagination here...), and decided to let us users enjoy it anyway!!!
    the 3803 will probably sort this out.
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