Ok guys I got it today and have it mostly hooked up and playing a DVD as I type. THE GOOD 1. MADE IN JAPAN THIS IS A VERY BIG PLUS 2. HEAVY 3. CAME IN 4 DAYS UNDAMAGED FROM 6TH AVE 4. WORKED OUT OF THE BOX 5. MORE TO FOLLOW THE BAD BUT NOT UGLY 1. NO WHERE DOES IT SAY TO HOOK IT UP TO A TV OR YOU WILL NEVER FIND THE SETUP MENU 2.SPEAKER TERMINALS ARE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER FOR MY FAT FINGERS 3.HOW DO YOU CHANGE THE CHANNELS FROM THE REMOTE????? 4. HOW DO YOU MANUALY TUNE FROM THE REMOTE??? 5. HOW DO YOU MANUALLY TUNE AT ALL???? 6. TUNER IS WEAK ON PULLING IN WEAK STATIONS 7. MANUAL NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN BY SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY HOOKS THIS UP FOR THE FIRST TIME 8. MORE TOO FOLLOW This is my first impression after two hours. It will change with time as I learn how to best make it work. I'm playing a dvd in 7.1 simulated out of 5.1 discrete as we type. My JBL S312(for center channel) comes tommorrow with my 333es mega changer. Then I can put Abby Road on in 7 channel stereo and melt my ears. Aliens from primus have 4 thumbs.