Denon 3801 Question

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  1. Anthony Moore

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    OK, im a little confused.
    The 3801 has 7 channels amplified?
    Is that the 6 channels and a sub amp, or does it amplify TWO rear centers?
    Also, does it have pretty much everything im going to need for the next couple of years? Or should I wait or spend my money on something better? I would like a receiver to supprt all formats. Is this missing anything?
    Thanks all.
    Also, how is this receiver for music? Sound good?
     
  2. Henry Carmona

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    Yes, 7 amplifiers (2 rear)
    the 3802 has a new feature called Pro Logic II, not a big deal, but if you watch a lot of Pro Logic movies, its suppose to add a Dolby Digital like sound.
    Its also suppose to sound good with music.
    Other than DPL II, the 3801 is basically identical and if you wanted to save a few bucks, the 3801 may be the one for you.
    I think some are getting the 3801 for about $700
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  3. BrianBHD

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    Not true about the 3802. It is a number of enhancements:
    1. 5W more power on all channels
    2. Better shielding
    3. DPLII
    4. Better power supply
    5. Warmer sound - more like 3300 than 3801
    Also, why does everyone say DPLII is worthless? It is great for 2 channel stereo. What do you watch TV or listen to your CD's with? I would say I listen to DPLII 90% of the time.
    If you strictly use your receiver for HT (no TV), then you might not use it as much.
     
  4. Anthony Moore

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    Im not too up on any of the formats about 5.1.
    So what about dts es and ex? Is the 3801 compatable with it? Does it have a built in decoder for these, or just inputs?
    Thanks again
     
  5. Steve Schick

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    Anthony,
    Yes, the 3801 (as well as the 3802) includes DD-EX and DTS-ES (both matrix and discrete) built in, no need for an external decoder.
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  6. Anthony Moore

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    Couple more stupid questions:
    Whats matrix?
    Also, movies that are mot mixed for the rear centers, can you make use of theem anyways? Or is that not practical?
    Thanks
     
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    Matrix is a means of encoding extra channels on top of a set number of discrete channels (via in-phase and out of phase recording techniques). Not very good channel separation when they are extracted.
    Yes, 5.0 and 5.1 discrete movies can be decoded to 6.1 matrix. However, if the surrounds are used subtly or with very little split stereo activity, the sound will blob into the center back speaker.
    Most action, fantasy, and sci-fi movies from the past 10 years (and some older movies remixed to 5.1) will work with 6.1 matrix surround as long as they have active surround channels.
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