Denon 2802 or Yamaha Rx-V1200?

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  1. Ryan Cruz

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    With Denon being a lot more expensive from where I am, these two receviers have the same prices.

    What should I get? I listen to audio and movies around 50/50 of the time. I also have full range Mission 705a's so I'm thinking that from my present receiver, the Denon 1602, I'm going to benefit from more power from my amp.
     
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    I would go with the Denon. I had a bad experience with the new line of Yammie, the 1200. Never had, or have heard of, any problems with the new Denons. I fyou are willing to wait a few months, can take a look at the upcoming 1803, supposedly more features and a lower price than the 2802, with just as much power.
     
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    I listened to the two units and I prefered ths sound of the 1200. The 1200 was much more musical and warmer and I felt the 2802 was a bit on the bright side. Of course that's my personal view and you have to listen to them to judge for yourself.

    As for quality, I've never had a problem with Yamaha. I own several Yamaha units including the RX-V2200 and I'm pretty happy with it. I know that the 1200's remote had a bug when first shipped but reports indicate that has been fixed. I believe both Yamaha and Denon have a good reputation for building their units like tanks.

    The differences between the two units are subtle and it will depend a lot on what features you need and which sounds better to your ears. Have fun.

    - Mike
     
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    I also preferred the Yamaha over the denon. And, I actually got the Yamaha for almost $400 less than the denon would have cost me, so as you might imagine, I'm a happy camper.
    Either way, have fun with your new receiver.[​IMG]
     
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    1 vote for the rx-v1200
     
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    I think that if it is power you need for your speakers, then you might want to save a little more and go for a bigger receiver, like the 3802 or 2200. Just look at the inside of the 3802 it has a huge transformer compared to the 2802, and the Onkyo 797/898 are almost the same and also have much larger tansformers, 3802 Inside and the 797/898 inside . It's clear that the 797/88 and 3802 have big transformers, and so does the 2200, so if it is power you want, I suggest a little saving now will bring a lot of benefits later. But otherwise, it's a hard choice, I'd say Yamaha only because I've owned them before and they are good. (I currently own an Onkyo 797)
     
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    Ok. Is it true when people say that Yamaha isn't as musical as Denon? Also, when are the new amps of Denon coming out?
     
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    I stopped being mesmerized by the wattage ratings on receivers ... after hooking up the HK PA-5800 amp to the preouts of my Denon Receiver.

    The 85w/ch HK killed the receiver as far as dynamics are concerned. Which is no wonder because this amp has 70 AMPS of reserve ... its a very heavy amp too !

    My advice ... get the least expensive Denon with preouts (2802) .. and get a 5 ch amp like the PA-5800 ($300 used) ... you will be the envy of even the Denon AVR-5802 owners :)

    Max
     
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    My vote is for the Yamaha.
    The RX-V1200 IMHO has a wonderful 'mid sized' amp with enough power to push multiple less sensitive (than your Mission's) speakers.
    No the yammie doesn't push out 100 watts rms [​IMG] (rated at 80x6.1) through each channel but it should push your Mission's with enough authority to fill most average sized rooms. It has been pushing my JBL ND301's to some rather ear bleeding levels lately. But, please do remember, that any piece of equipment should be purchased because it fits into your system. Not because it did or did not work for someone else. :b
    Ryan, here is a question for you. How large is your listening area? Also, are you considering adding other speakers to your system?
     
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    You could'nt go wrong with either the 2082 or the 1200. They are both excellent units. I did purchase the 1200 myself about a month ago at an authorized dealer for $750. This was one of the rare dealers who sells both Yamaha and Denon so I was able to compare both units with the same speaker set up. I went into the store really expecting to buy the Denon, but after comparing the two units I wound up with the Yamaha. I just think the Yamaha has an overall better sound. I do think the the previous post has a good point about using the 2802 as a preamp but the 1200 would also work just fine in this role also.
     
  12. Ryan Cruz

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    Thanks for your help guys

    Richard,

    The speakers are in my room, which is medium-sized, around 7X7 meters. I'm not planning to add anything in the near future. Aside from the 705a's I have the Mission Reference 75C and 78ds for surrounds.
     

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