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Denon 1803 and Polk RM7600

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by PhilipGee, Jan 20, 2003.

  1. PhilipGee

    PhilipGee Auditioning

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    Hi

    A salesman recently told me that the Polk RM7600 satellites and center speaker wouldn't be a good match for the Denon 1803 a/v receiver. He thought that the Polk satellites were crap and said they'd sound horrible with the type of music I like. I was playing Massive Attack at the time.

    Would anyone here agree with that comment? Or are there other suggestions about a more suitable marriage of speakers and receivers?

    thanx

    phil
     
  2. TylerZ

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    It really doesn't make a damn bit of difference what the salesdude likes. The main question is how did it sound to you? You put 3 people in a room auditioning 2 different makes of speakers and you will get 4 opinions. IMO Denon and Polk are a good match, but so are countless other combinations. Buy what sounds good to YOU, you're the one who will be listening to it at home, not the salesdude.
     
  3. PhilipGee

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    Thanx for your thoughts [​IMG]

    I guess because he dissed the Polks I immediately started to think that they might not be the correct choice. Possibly there was something about them that I didn't know. The salesman said that Polk are nowhere near as good as they were 5 years ago.

    As now I've been listening to other speaks again in a hope of forming a decision on which way to go. As someone who doesn't know a hell of a lot about HT I just don't want to make a mistake and purchase the incorrect set of speakers.

    I'm thinking of going for B&Ws now, but unfortunately can't seem to find a store that stocks both Polk (only one seller in my city) and B&W. Thankfully the two shops are very close to each other, so I guess I'll just have to go between the two.
     
  4. TylerZ

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    Did you have a listen to other offerings from Polk? Try the RTi38's for fronts, RTi28's for rears, a CSi40 center, and a descent sub. Remember, you don't have to stay with the same brand/make for your sub as you do for the rest of the system. I don't know what your budget is but the above system would be about $1060 retail. Add $500 for an HSU sub(available online)and you'd have a damn good sounding system IMHO.
     
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    Hi Tyler

    The main reason that I was thinking of purchasing the Polk satellite speaker system was because of the small size of them. The wife was very insistent on the speakers being small. I'm currently trying to talk her around into buying some British speakers by Bowers and Wilkins. They've recently released the 600 Series 3 and there are some nice bookshelf speakers that I could use in a home theatre set up. My biggest stumbling block will be the wife though!

    As for budget, I'm currently living in Australia, so the exchange rate between pounds and dollars is around 0.35

    So the set up I'm looking at purchasing is:

    B&W DM600 S3 - $699 (Surrounds)
    B&W DM601 S3 - $899 (Fronts)
    B&W LCR60 S3 - $699 (Centre)
    B&W ASW600 - $1299 (Sub)

    I'm seriously considering matching these speakers with the Harman Kardon AVR 4500 - this is an international model, which I don't believe is for sale in North America.

    So after further consideration I came to the conclusion that since the B&Ws were better speakers than the Polks and then started to think that maybe the Harman Kardon is a better receiver than the Denon. What are your thoughts on this change in direction?
     
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    Yeah, TWF(the wife factor). Don't know about down under, but around here the word 'wife' stands for Will InterFere Everytime. As for the size issue, the 35's, 25's, and center I mentioned are a bit larger than the satellites. The biggest difference is in the depth, which may mean a better sound. B&W's are very respected here in the states. I've heard some of their older models are was very impressed with both their clarity and accuracy. You won't go wrong with them. Personally I have never been a big HK fan. I think Denon offers more for the $.
     
  7. PhilipGee

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    Hello again [​IMG]

     
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    I think the 1803 with it's 80 watts would fine with the B&W's. Is lack of phono input on the HK important to you? BTW, did you have a chance to check out the LSi line from Polk? The 7's and 9's sound exceptional for bookshelf speakers, but they are larger than the other Polk's you looked at. I know space is an concern. How big are the B&W's you're looking at? One more thought on saving some $ is you do not have to go with a B&W sub just because your other speakers are B&W. People here really have alot of good things to say about the HSU subs. They have a model for $500 that really kicks out the bass. Have you been able to read any reviews about HSU? If not let me know and I'll forward a link to you.
     
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    Hello again [​IMG]

     
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    Yeah, it can be confusing. But it can also be a lot of fun. Just trust your ears and take your time. After all, you will be enjoying the system you finally choose for years to come. Best advice I can give ya is to narrow your selection down to two or three brands/models within your budget and go from there. What other speakers are you considering? Not to make it any more confusing, just out of curiosity, do they sell Paradigm, Definitive Technology, Canton, Wharfdale, or Klipsch speakers in Australia? Are any Polk's still in the running? If TWF is still an issue, consider taking her along on one of your auditions. It may make her realize that a speaker 'just a little bit bigger' might sound a little bit better. Keep me posted.
     
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    Hi Tyler [​IMG]

     
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    I believe you can buy the 7600s w/o the subs-- it's actually the dealer's option how they sell it. If your dealer won't split them, check w/ HK.

    I'm probably going to end up with them and a sub from Infinity, Velodyne, or SVS. (If anybody has any comments on that, please check my thread, imaginatively entitled
    Velodyne, Polk and Infinity Subs
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    According to www.xe.com, AUD$2500 is around US$1466. However, those speakers, sans sub, should be around US$1200-1300, and that's at Polk's inflated MSRPs-- they often sell for around US$100-$200 less. I would suggest that, if possible, you find another dealer (feeling like someone has been rude to you is the main reason I say that), or if that's impossible, try and talk them down in price-- international shipping isn't _that_ expensive...

    FWIW, while there are certainly much better speakers out there, I have yet to find speakers that are that good with that much WAF. I'm actually going to be pretty happy with mine, and down the road, upgrading will be fairly easy-- a pair of bookshelves up front, maybe a better center channel, eventually an SVS 20-39PCi, as my fiance grows more and more used to excellent sound. [​IMG]

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    PhilipGee,

    I have the RM7200 system setup in our spare room. Uses satellites/center similar to the RM7600 but has the PSW-550 sub. My wife and I were looking for a small speaker package and had been set on the Bose AM15 sub/sat package. Then we heard the RM7200 on display at Circuit City. We were really impressed. After some auditioning we both agreed the Polk's sounded better (especially the bass). Circuit City carries the RM7200 priced at $1299 for the package. I ended up picking them up brand new on Ebay for $875 + shipping.

    We've had them a month now and my wife has taken a strong liking to them. My only complaint is that the center channel doesn't produce a very spacious sound. But in a small room it's not as noticable.

    I would definately recommend these to anyone looking for a great sounding sub/sat system that doesn't take up alot of space.

    -Jeramy
     
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    Jeramy

    Thank you for your input.

    How big is the room that you've put this RM7200 set up into? My lounge room is only 16.5ft long by 12ft wide by 10ft high, so given that this room isn't terribly big, I'm wondering if I'll be able to notice any problems associated with the centre speaker as you've outlined above?
     

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