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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Don Whitley, Jan 6, 2002.
Can macrovision be defeated on the Sony DVP-S7700 and if so, how?
Yep, this thread has got to go.
Don, let me respond in a more informative way. What you asking is how to do something illegal, and discussion of that is forbidden in this forum.
I am curious.... If it's illegal to discuss disabling macro
vision protection on this forum. Then how come in a recent
thread I saw none other than Ronald Epstein talking about a
new player that had this feature disabled...
I am just curious that's all.. I could care less about disabling
Well, without being Ron, I would only be able to speculate, but I see a stark difference between a feature of a DVD player, and how to actually defeat the macrovision. It is apperantly not illegal to produce such a dvd player (or this one would not be made, correct?) but it is illegal to try to defeat the macrovision through other means.
Actualy from what I read in that thread it's not exactlt
legal to produce the player without the Macrovision (and
the company is probably just asking to be sued by S/P)
I just thought it was "taboo" to even discuss it at all!
I'm not an expert on the legality of this, and wasn't really trying to get into it, I just thought the first couple of responses were cryptic and wanted to let the poster know why he was getting such responses.
Hmmm... is it actually illegal to defeat Macrovision to watch your own DVDs on your F connector TV (coax cable input only) by passing it through your VCR or through a demodulator? I thought correcting macrovision induced video errors was only illegal if you used it to pirate DVD discs?
Where does it say that I can't disable macrovision in the comfort of my own home for non-commercial means such as making a vhs copy of my own Shrek DVD so that my kids can watch it in their own rooms on their vcrs? If in fact this is somehow illegal, which of the folks who bypassed macrovision goes to jail... my seven year old or my eight year old, or both?
Ron did post saying he had a player that came with macrovision and then had it disabled.
Please be advised Im a moron with a misalligned browser window. (last time I use Solaris with netscape for HTF viewing, nothing but problems :sigh
Wasnt Rons thread about the Malata DVD player mainly about the fact it played PAL DVDs and its All-region??? It just so happens it also doesnt support Macrovision Protection...
Defeating or disabling Macrovision is not illegal, and devices designed for that purpose are readily available at major mainstream retailers. It is, however, likely a contractual violation for DVD player manufacturers to make players that do not support Macrovision because doing so is outside the redbook spec.
Furthermore, recording copyrighted DVDs that you own for your personal use is likely perfectly legal under current copyright case law (the same case law that established that you can record your own CDs, or TV shows so that you can watch them later).
That said, discussing how to defeat Macrovision and where to buy equipment that will allow you to do so is against forum rules. This is a privately-owned forum. Members need to respect these rules and follow them, as per the owners' wishes.
I believe the following is what the Forum rules say regarding this topic.
It's deja vu all over again. This exact discussion was held about 6 months ago (I'll see if I can find the thread). As I recall, the bottom line was that the HTF owners could be liable for damages if it appeared they were promoting bootlegging. Rather than try to find the line not to be crossed in discussions, it's easier just to not discuss here.
Keep in mind, the owners (Ron and Packy, bless them) run this forum as a labor of love. It's their 'house'; they can set any rules they want. Taking hours out of their days to run; why do we need to continually berate them about rules we ALL agreed to when we joined the forum.