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tele1962 said:
As I said I have the WOW disc, S&M and AVSHD the latter being the most professional apart from Signal Generators and the such. Why are you ignoring the Calibration For Dummies link?

If you set it up as you like it will purely be an opinion and not in any way accurate.

If you have the 2 disc WOW disc that I have I don't see how you can say it's only for adjusting brightness.


I agree if I set it as I like it some might not call it accurate, but as I said earlier , I went through the whole disc post setup and it told me my settings were correct apart from the contrast but the difference was so minor I didn't worry.


Why do you continue to miss the point that I don't care about making adjustments to my setup. I am more than happy with it as it is.


I'm gutted the 7.1 sound is absent from the new Arrow disc though and I don't really want to watch it in Italian
 

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tele1962 said:
" Adjust things your eye can not see" what on earth makes you think that. You really think you can adjust your TV by eye to the correct levels. Now that is laughable and shows you are totally unwilling to look at and learn what calibration is all about.


I watch the tv with my eyes so my eyes are the best judge to how the pictures should look. I don't want technical devices adjusting things my eyes cannot see. And if they can see them then I'll adjust the image fine.


I DON'T CARE WHAT CALIBRATION IS ALL ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm happy with my system and I love the quality I get from Blurays and all other discs.

Which bit of that don't you understand?


Maybe if you saw my pictures you could spot some flaws - in the meantime I bought how many extra Blurays with the money you spent on calibration.


TV's include adjustments for a reason so I take them up on it.
 

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turtledove said:
I watch the tv with my eyes so my eyes are the best judge to how the pictures should look. I don't want technical devices adjusting things my eyes cannot see. And if they can see them then I'll adjust the image fine.


I DON'T CARE WHAT CALIBRATION IS ALL ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm happy with my system and I love the quality I get from Blurays and all other discs.

Which bit of that don't you understand?


Maybe if you saw my pictures you could spot some flaws - in the meantime I bought how many extra Blurays with the money you spent on calibration

The bit where accuracy is involved. You keep saying your eyes can not see..................did you look at my link at all?


PS

You brought all this up mate then kept it going, if you do not want to learn about this so be it but please do not criticise the look colour or anything else of a Blu Ray on your system until you are viewing it correctly.
 

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tele1962 said:
do not criticise the look colour or anything else of a Blu Ray on your system until you are viewing it correctly.

Biggest crock of crap you've posted today. So the majority of Bluray punters who won't have spent money on calibrating their systems don't have valid opinions.

You're talking out of your arse now - so you've given your opinion now lets move on and concentrate on the actual release.

You'd best inform all your Bluray.com members who've not been calibrated about their worthless opinions too.

I think you might be the first to be added to my Ignore list. Shame
 

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turtledove said:
Biggest crock of crap you've posted today. So the majority of Bluray punters who won't have spent money on calibrating their systems don't have valid opinions.

You're talking out of your arse now - so you've given your opinion now lets move on and concentrate on the actual release.

You'd best inform all your Bluray.com members who've not been calibrated about their worthless opinions too.

I think you might be the first to be added to my Block list. Shame

Woops hit a nerve have I LOL.


We all have valid opinions but they remain just that until we can show otherwise..............if not what would be the point of all those controls on your TV?
 

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tele1962 said:
Woops hit a nerve have I LOL.


We all have valid opinions but they remain just that until we can show otherwise..............if not what would be the point of all those controls on your TV?

The only nerve you've hit is you've gone back to the "elitism" I mentioned in my very first post about calibration.

Snobbery is fine but when its based on such drivel it grates. You've basically said that every member of this forum who has not had their system calibrated does not have a valid opinion.

I would say calling that view complete bollocks is mild compared to how other HTF members may take it.

As I said , I should have ignored you when I first saw your glowing report of the Arrow disc based on grabs alone but your attempt to ridicule Bigshots views made me decide to comment.

Now you're trying the same with me but all you've done is show yourself up.

For the record - whether my setup quality is excellent only in my opinion matters to me as much as your opinion on anything does.


Now lets move on. I knew I should not have clicked "view anyway" after I put you on Ignore.
 

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I hope Neil allows this, no snobbery involved but I did say that until we are all viewing on a calibrated to standard set up opinions on colour grading etc will be just that, opinions. Where as those who graded, authored, restored the movie will have done so on a calibrated set up matching certain standards for film and tv material, so viewing this material on a similarly set up monitor would be the way forward for accurate judgement of said material would it not.


I tried to help with the link for calibration for dummies but you choose to ignore it, so be it.


PS

I did not ridicule Big Shots posts and even to walk away but unfortunately that was ignored.
 

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Just been reading some of the excellent booklet included with the set, highly recommended reading.
 

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tele1962 said:
These discs can be superb to calibrate a system (I have both) and where did I say "Spears & Munsil does not matter"


When I told you that I had calibrated my system using Spears and Munsil, you insisted that it was still uncalibrated. The whole "blame the eyes - blame the equipment - leave it to the experts" debating strategy is really not very effective.
 

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When I told you that I had calibrated my system using Spears and Munsil, you insisted that it was still uncalibrated. The whole "blame the eyes - blame the equipment - leave it to the experts" debating strategy is really not very effective.

There is a world of difference between adjusting brightness and calibration.
 

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There you go, you just said that Spears and Munsil doesn't matter. Thanks for playing! We have a copy of our Home Theater Forum Home Game and some lovely parting gifts from the Spiegel Catalog for you!
 

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bigshot said:
There you go, you just said that Spears and Munsil doesn't matter. Thanks for playing! We have a copy of our Home Theater Forum Home Game and some lovely parting gifts from the Spiegel Catalog for you!
nope I did not and please stop putting words in my mouth, I said adjusting brightness is not a calibration, using the other patterns on there along side a colorimeter and a specialist program to measure WB, Colour Gamut, Gamma etc is. S&M is very good for basic tweaking but without the use of special equipment to use with it, that is not calibration.


Why are you refusing to read my link to Calibration For Dummies, it's all excellently explained there.


Here is the link again in case you missed it.


http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35322


Here you go another guide here:


https://www.avforums.com/PicturePerfect/



Please take the time to read and watch them. It will give you guys a better understanding of TV calibration.
 

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Now back to the actual film. I wonder if Arrow might revisit some of there earlier titles (if they still have the rights) and similarly do knew scans etc?
 

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bigshot said:
When I told you that I had calibrated my system using Spears and Munsil, you insisted that it was still uncalibrated. The whole "blame the eyes - blame the equipment - leave it to the experts" debating strategy is really not very effective.

Even though I have him on ignore your quote means I can see his contradictions.

One post he tells me the discs will only mean we are adjusting for brightness then he says they can be superb to calibrate a system??!!??
 

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Even though I have him on ignore your quote means I can see his contradictions.

One post he tells me the discs will only mean we are adjusting for brightness then he says they can be superb to calibrate a system??!!??

You need to read the post again as I think your being a little selective in your comments, but of course you already know that.


I take it you have me on ignore because you don't want to listen to genuine advice that might contradict your opinion.....I am cool with that. But please do not use opinion as an argument against scientific fact as it does no favours to anyone.


Also why the point blank refusal from you guys to read or watch my links............this is very telling for anyone looking in.


It's called:
 

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I don't see much reason to argue over whether or not to purchase this edition because it was sold out well before the release date. I probably would have purchased this because I really like the film but now I will probably stay with the Blue Underground release because this one is not available.
 

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Mine shipped today from Amazon UK. I've bought this and other Argento titles as much as I've bought the Bond series.
 

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I bought all of the Argento titles as well but just forgot this was coming out and was unaware that it was a limited edition. When I was reminded by this thread it was being released I went to order a copy only to discover that it is no longer available. I might consider the single disc at a discount price when that appears and I did not care about most of the bells and whistles with this set but I'm not too disappointed I missed it because the Blue Underground is a pretty nice edition of the film. I think Arrow sort of blew it by not creating enough copies of this to last at least until some time after the release date but that's basically just lost sales for them.


Deep Red is a fun film and I think there are a lot of Argento collectors out there that would have liked to have purchased this and missed it.


It seems horror films always get the best boxed sets. Do you have a copy of the Mondo Vision Possession, Bob? That is by far the most gorgeous box set I have encountered.
 

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