Dear Paramount, the Boomerang transfer is horrible and unacceptable

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  1. Reginald Trent

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    This is my favorite Eddie Murphy comedy. Got a chance to check it out today and was totally "unimpressed" with the transfer. For a 90's movie the grain was unacceptable and the colors were so faded it was sad! I've not seen Paramount issue out so poor a transfer since their early days of DVD. The surround was alright but the video transfer leaves alot to be desired. Good thing for me I rented it first!

    Sad to say Paramount put very little if any care into the preparation of this title. It definitely needs a remaster but I'm pretty sure we won't see this happen.

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    I totally agree, I'm am very upset over the shotty treatment of this title by Paramount. A remaster is definately in order.
     
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    May I ask you a question: what evidence do you have that the transfer isn't the best possible from the original source elements? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask me why the transfer doesn't meet your expectations? The transfer may be fine and your beef would then be with the source materials.
     
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    Then the original source elements are badly in need of restoration. For a 90's movie the elements seem badly worn. Whether it's the source or the elements this disc looks horrible! By far the worse transfer of any Paramount title I've seen!
     
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    Martin, looks pretty good to me.
     
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    Some films aren't made with 100% perfect conditions like Attack of the Clones.

    That being said, the DVD is likely a great representation of what the film looks like.
     
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    Some films aren't made with 100% perfect conditions like Attack of the Clones.

    That being said, the DVD is likely a great representation of what the film looks like.
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    Really??????? You don't say. You know I was wondering about that because Casino, and Scarface don't look that good on my Sony Wega either. But seriously, I did say I felt a remaster is in order. It's the last line of my initial post.And yes, I expected better from Paramount and that's why I'm so disappointed.
     
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    Casino is deliberately grainy, but Scarface is just a bad video transfer. Many will agree with me about Scarface.
     
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    Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. These eyes though, won't be beholding. [​IMG]
     
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    Some films aren't made with 100% perfect conditions like Attack of the Clones.
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    I find this statement sarcastic. Primarily because Attack Of The Clones is the ONLY live action movie filmed entirely in the digital format. Therefore, no other film qualifies.
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    Did you really think Paramount was going to dump a lot of money into this title?
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    Hummm let's see.....The film stars Eddie Murphy arguably the biggest if not funniest star of the 80's - 90's. He made millions for Paramount with one film after another. Academy Award Oscar winning Hallie Berry. And she isn't too bad on the eyes either. Legendary Eartha Kitt. Martin Lawrence, Chris Rock, Grace Jones and Robin Givens to name a few.

    Yeah I guess you're right this film doesn't deserve any special attention with a poor cast like that.

    But seriously, on the other hand. John, please explain why you feel Paramount should not have spent more time and money to make this film look better?
     
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    ditto.
    Scarface has been bashed as one of the worst transfers in the history of DVD but it's both one of my favorite films and the DVD is much better than the well worn VHS copy that I've since retired, so I'm happy with it. Likewise Boomerang is a great film so tomorrow afternoon when I go shopping it will be on my to buy list.
     
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    Reginald, I get the feeling that only you, I, and John are the only ones in this thread that have actually seen the disc. John seems to think the transfer is ok, which is his opinion and that's ok. As for you and I we know the picture quality stinks! I have seen Boomerang in the theaters when released, have the VHS, have seen it on cable so many times so i'm not a novice to what Boomerang is supposed to look like.

    The fact remains that whether the film elements are worn (which they look like to me) or bad transfer it really looks bad! The colors are definitely faded. There is a high level of film grain. It looks like the transfer was done from a very poor quality print. It's difficult for me to believe that for a 90's film that, that print is the best they could find for a transfer. It's apparent that Paramount put very little effort in the video portion of this release.

    As far as the comments as why they would put effort into it? Eddie Murphy had been Paramount's biggest star in the 80's through the early 90's. No one save Tom Cruise came close! Eddie's films definitely deserve better than what this one got. To be honest I haven't seen a disc this bad from Paramount since HEAVEN CAN WAIT and that was released in 98', this is 2002! This transfer reminds me alot of THE FIVE HEARTBEATS as far as disappointments!

    Unfortunately, we'll probably have to wait till HiDef DVD before this one gets a quality presentation.

    David
     
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    And AOTC isn't the only one filmed digitally.
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    Pat, So what are the other Live Action movies that are filmed enitrely in the digital format?
     
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    Okay, let me interject some of my thoughts here. Since this thread began, I decided to move this title up on my viewing list. Well, this morning I watched the complete dvd including the extended/deleted scenes as well as watching the movie a second time with director's Reginald Hudlin's commentary. Though, I understand that some of you are disappointed in the transfer, I personally can't find anything particularly poor about the video transfer I watched twice on my ISF calibrated Pioneer Elite-710 RPTV with a Panasonic RP-91 dvd player. The picture had some grain which is inherent with the film element used in the transfer, but the amount of grain never detracted me from enjoying the transfer. Film grain is not a bad thing! The coloring was fine to me, but it's possible that it wasn't as vibrant as it was during my first viewing of this film back in 1992.
    I've watched plenty of dvds in the last six years due to having a 1800 dvd collection and this is far from being among the worse in video quality. Different displays and equipment reveals different things to people and one's own interpretation of what defines a bad video presentation can come into play here and what I personally exprienced this morning is frankly, not a bad dvd presentation.
    I love this dvd and will probably be watching it again soon due to the great comic dialogue spoken and a better understanding from Hudlin as to what was rehearsed versus ad-libbed for the final cut of the film.
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    I'll have to research this more. However, on first glance the only movie that might meet my criteria is Spy Kids 2. Bamboozled was filmed with consumer grade hand held digital cameras. Hardly the case with AOTC. The cameras used for AOTC probably cost more than the entire budget of Bamboozled. Hardly a fair or accurate comparison.
     
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    "CQ" is another digitally shot, live-action film. I believe it was shot with the same model HD cameras as "Clones". Also add "Chelsea Walls", but I don't know what digital gear it was shot with.

    Patrick, "Dancer in the Dark" was a mix of film and (digital) video. The DVD was mastered from a film print.
     
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    Digitally filmed, digitally mastered a perfect clone. Own the first major live action film on DVD captured directly from its digital source. With six hours of bonus features.

    The preceding statement taken from the commercial for the ATOC DVD which aired 11/9/2002. Which sounds to me like AOTC is the only movie to meet my criteria.

    "Additional materials are not rated or closed captioned." Was also stated in small print at the bottom of the screen.
     

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