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Logan Co-Writer Says Deadpool & Wolverine Opening Scene Was a "Huge Compliment"​


"People had warned me ahead of time, 'Uh, I don't know how you're gonna feel about the opening [of Deadpool & Wolverine]'," Green revealed. "I'm like, 'I think I know what's gonna happen.' And I did not know! I didn't know they were gonna go that far. You weren't meant to take seriously that they were, like, digging him up, and that it was really him. It felt less like they were trying to change the ending of Logan as they were contending with not feeling that they wanted to make a movie as good as they felt Logan was, which is a huge compliment! I felt like it was nothing but complimentary."
 

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Of all the things in the X-Men and adjacent movies that either don't make sense or stretch the limits of believability, the timeline/chronology/continuity is at the top of the list, even if we take out the time travelling elements of the previous films.

There's barely any evidence in Logan that it's a direct continuation of the same character we saw in any of the X-Men or Wolverine movies. And honestly, it's been hard to tell who "our" Logan has been since 2006 with all of the attempted reboots after X-Men 3.

Others have already addressed that, but as a tangentially related aside, personally, I've always been a tad mixed on their original choice to cast Jackman in the role because he really is waaaay too tall and not remotely stocky at all (though they tried to workaround that w/ camera angles, etc to make him seem shorter, etc as much as possible at least earlier on), but I loved that this movie totally acknowledged that and even poked fun at that very well w/ one of the first instances of Deadpool "shopping" for a replacement (finding the comically, overly short, but properly stocky variant)... and maybe also the whole idea of trying so many different variants (that also included a somewhat properly comic-faithful looking Cavilrine though also off because he's made to appear too big OTOH otherwise, heh) to boot that also perfectly fits the narrative, LOL. That whole sequence feels like a great joke poking fun at how Jackman had always been not quite what a comic-faithful version should be and yet also that naysayers of that casting choice may be too hung up on that since that was the only real quibble (though it's certainly a substantial one... at least if wanting to be all that faithful to the comics anyway), heh...

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Well, I'm glad Michael Green took the opening scene of Deadpool and Wolverine much better than I did.
 

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First look at one of the variants that didn’t make the cut
Wolverinepool

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Others have already addressed that, but as a tangentially related aside, personally, I've always been a tad mixed on their original choice to cast Jackman in the role because he really is waaaay too tall and not remotely stocky at all (though they tried to workaround that w/ camera angles, etc to make him seem shorter, etc as much as possible at least earlier on), but I loved that this movie totally acknowledged that and even poked fun at that very well w/ one of the first instances of Deadpool "shopping" for a replacement (finding the comically, overly short, but properly stocky variant)... and maybe also the whole idea of trying so many different variants (that also included a somewhat properly comic-faithful looking Cavilrine though also off because he's made to appear too big OTOH otherwise, heh) to boot that also perfectly fits the narrative, LOL. That whole sequence feels like a great joke poking fun at how Jackman had always been not quite what a comic-faithful version should be and yet also that naysayers of that casting choice may be too hung up on that since that was the only real quibble (though it's certainly a substantial one... at least if wanting to be all that faithful to the comics anyway), heh...

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One of the YouTubers I used to follow said they should have cast a young Bob Hoskins to be faithful to the comic book Wolverine. :biggrin:

EDIT: I guess there is actually some context to this: https://www.cbr.com/chris-claremont-bob-hoskins-wolverine/

And I will always love this moment from the Oscars:

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But the full thing deserves to be watched:

 
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I had a snow day today, so I watched Deadpool + Wolverine. And it was fine. Better than I expected from the trailer but not nearly as much fun for me as the first two. My experience was it was at various times: fun, moving, surprising, boring, and tedious.

Being a man of a certain age, my favorite cameos were of course Elektra and Blade. I should have been more excited about X23, but I haven't watched Logan in a decade, so I'd completely forgotten about that character.

I learned that I will watch a Channing Tatum Gambit movie.

I have no feelings about DP+W resurrecting Wolvering or "violating" the movie Logan. This was a non-issue. The overall thread for Logan was solid and fitting for the character, I think, in my meager knowledge of Wolverine.

The related subplot of Charles Xavier's sociopathic sister was surprising and quite interesting. That was the best part of the movie for me. But then I also felt this was the beating heart stolen from a much (much) better X-Men movie, a la Logan, that will never be.

DP+W confirms that I'm tired of Ryan Reynolds' banter schtick. I suspected this after watching The Adam Project, which is a reasonably well regarded Netflix movie, but I enjoyed overall but found too Ryan-Reynolds-y. Watching D+W, such as the Johnny Storm death scene, I was getting exasperated with Deadpool's vomit of words and really wanted the story to move along.

I'm also definitely in a phase where I'm less enthused than I once was about action for the sake of action. There was a great deal of violence for the sake of entertaining people who just want to watch violence. And I enjoyed all that in Deadpool 1 and 2. But it wasn't resonating for me this time. Maybe because I know with two immortals that there are no stakes. DP and W, neither one, are at risk. There's no story benefit or character growth from it. It's just spectacle. And for, it wasn't especially creative spectacle. John Wick is a death ballet, and every time it's new and creative and elegantly beautiful in its horror. But DP is just action figures being smashed together, for me.


I had completely forgotten Peter Pool from DP2, so I was constantly confused by him in the story.

I was also confused until the end by the TVA. It felt like TVA from Loki Season 1. But this movie came out after Season 2. So I didn't understand what was happening and where in MCU-time I was supposed to be. I gathered finally at the end that it was meant to be a rogue person doing ... something somehow ... after the ends of Loki S2? Ok fine. Doesn't really matter. But I wish I'd seen the TVA lead earlier to help me grasp this bit. The whole TVA setting was also not a benefit to me, since I thought Loki S2 and its conclusion were a letdown, and didn't have interest in revisiting.

Ideally, I should have re-watched DP 2 and Logan; that would have made DP+W more enjoyable and less confusing.

Also, a sign of my current tastes and maybe age, about a third of the jokes didn't land for me. GenZ anxiety and cancel-culture references were stale three years ago.

It was an ok movie. I was entertained more than I was bored or annoyed.
 

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Postscript: My feelings about Deadpool + Wolverine surely says more about me than the movie. I skimmed the pages of discussion and reviews. I see why people loved it. Deadpool deadpooled. And it finally had Hugh Jackman doing no-reservations Wolverine. And some great cameos / supporting actors. And they imbued the movie with some pathos and some heart.
 

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