Daredevil (Netflix) - April 10, 2015

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Less than two weeks out from the premiere on Netflix, I thought I'd start a thread for discussion specific to this show. The overarching thread for Marvel's multi-series initiative with Netflix is available here: MARVEL is bringing four new live-action shows to Netflix leading to a "Defenders event"

The trailers released by Marvel so far:
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAy6NJ_D5vU&list=PLSfh3ypxDMaFl_G2qmHw9NBCSllDuvyxY&index=2[/media]

The character posters released today featuring (clockwise from top left): Elden Henson as Foggy Nelson, Matt Murdock's law partner; Deborah Ann Woll as Karen Page, Murdock and Nelson's legal secretary; Charlie Cox as Daredevil, an enigmatic new superhero in Hell's Kitchen; Vincent D'Onofrio as Wilson Fisk, the crime kingpin of Hell's Kitchen; Rosario Dawson as Claire Temple, a nurse who tends to Daredevil's battle injuries; and Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock, a visually impaired lawyer with a law practice in Hell's Kitchen.

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So Elektra isn't in the story yet, which seemed to be the most anal nitpick fans had with the Ben Affleck movie.
 

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My guess is that she would get her own season long arc in a future seasons, should Netflix decide to bring the show back for more. Since Elektra doesn't help lay the groundwork for the Defenders team up event miniseries, she wasn't the right fit for this go-round.
 

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No advance word or reviews yet? Or doesn't Netflix do that? Either way, I'm anxious to see it.
 

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I'm certainly rooting for this show. The trailers are already vastly better than the movie ever was.
 

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Can't wait to marathon a bunch of these next weekend!

I don't want to blow through them all in one weekend, but I definitely plan on watching a sizeable chunk.
 

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And about the suit, Cox recently said this in an interview:

I love both of the suits. Obviously it was great to involve the John Romita Jr. black ninja costume but the day I first put on the iconic costume is a day I will never forget.
 

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I struggle with this model of serialized consumption.


On the one hand it's awesome that one does not have to endure the vagarities of oft interrupted broadcast scheduling. On the other, it's an overload of content. Stories for me work best stretched over a time period of say a couple of weeks. Stories work best when they have time to breathe and percolate in your subconscious. I plan to watch the series over the next two and a half weeks ie roughly an episode a night.


No doubt it sure is great to know the entire series is available at one's beck and call.
 
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Lou Sytsma said:
I struggle with this model of serialized consumption.


On the one hand it's awesome that one does not have to endure the vagarities of oft interrupted broadcast scheduling. On the other, it's an overload of content. Stories for me work best stretched over a time period of say a couple of weeks. Stories work best when they have time to breathe and percolate in your subconscious. I plan to watch the series over the next two and a half weeks ie roughly an episode a night.


No doubt it sure is great to know the entire series is available at one's beck and call.
I absolutely agree but I think the worst aspect of all the episodes being available at once is that people don't talk about the show because not everyone is on the same page. One guy watched 2 episodes, another watched all of them and yet another watched 7 episodes. Good luck having a conversation where you're not spoiling or getting spoiled. Once you kill that conversation, you're losing an important aspect of TV fandom- discussion.


How much talk about House Of Cards or Orange Is The New Black do you see after the first weekend it's available? Imagine how much more those episodes would be discussed if they were on once a week and everyone was talking about the same episode and speculating and really pointing out small details that they enjoyed. Which show is going to mean more to people and have a bigger legacy- the show that they watch 13 episodes of over one weekend every year & don't think or talk much about it until next year or the show they spend 3 months watching and talking about every year?
 

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Travis and Lou, couldn't agree more.

That was definitely a factor for me not watching the second season of "House of Cards" after mostly liking the first season. Everyone I knew who watched the show ended up binging through the second season within 48-72 hours of it coming out, so it went from one day of ducking out of conversations at work to avoid spoilers to not hearing it mentioned again until this year's came out. It felt "over" before I had a chance to start. I liked the first season enough where I could have carved out an hour a week to watch it, but not enough to commit to watching it in a vacuum. Totally the opposite experience for me than something like "Breaking Bad" where I didn't start watching it live, but after hearing so many people rave week after week, I checked it out while it was still on and I'm glad I did.

This being Marvel, and in theory with the chance of a connection to the other shows and movies at any time, thats probably the extra incentive I need to give it a shot and try to stick with it.
 
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I don't think it's much different than a book in that way. A new book comes out, a bunch of people read it at a different pace. The whole story is there and there's nothing stopping you from flipping to the last page if that's what you wish to do. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't discuss it with people who have read further than you. That's how we consumed story content for hundreds of years before radio, movie serials, and TV started giving us one chapter every week or so. We seemed to do OK.
 
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Stephen Brooks said:
I don't think it's much different than a book in that way. A new book comes out, a bunch of people read it at a different pace. The whole story is there and there's nothing stopping you from flipping to the last page if that's what you wish to do. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't discuss it with people who have read further than you. That's how we consumed story content for hundreds of years before radio, movie serials, and TV started giving us one chapter every week or so. We seemed to do OK.
Not to continue too far off the real topic of this thread but it's not really a matter of being spoiled, it's the loss of discussion. How or when a show is watched isn't going to change its quality (if the show is good, the show is good) but the discussion is a part of the fun of watching a show. When everyone isn't watching the show at the same basic rate, that discussion is inevitably curbed and that means losing an important element in building devotion to a show. I know when I look back at shows that I've really loved throughout the years (The Simpsons, Seinfeld, The X-Files, The Sopranos, Lost, Breaking Bad, Parks And Recreation), part of that love came from talking about and dissecting the little bits of them with friends.
 
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Very true Travis.


There's also the a balance between creating a work and consuming it I feel that should be observed. Creating something takes months or years. I can't wrap my head around devouring something that takes that long to be made in a mere matter of hours. Almost seems like a form of gluttony.


Like a bottle of wine, these things should be given time to breathe. Rushing through things you tend to lose or miss the subtleties.
 
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I've personally found my enjoyment of serialized shows is greatly increased when I can watch several in a row and complete an entire season in just a couple of weeks.

Watching all 10 episodes of Game of Thrones in late winter when the blu-ray comes out has always been more enjoyable than watchng it first run and waiting week to week. I still love the new shows as they air week to week, but it plays so much better when you can go from one to the next. I didn't watch Breaking Bad when it aired, but I watched all 5 seasons in a couple of months this past summer, and it was a fantastic viewing experience. If the show is great I don't really need outside discussion to help me enjoy it. Sometimes those discussions can get a bit tiresome when they start devolving into endless nit-picks and I just bow out anyway.

Discussions can be fun, but I can honestly take them or leave them. As Stephen said, discussions can still be had about the completed work you've watched (like with films or books you've read). It doesn't have to be all speculation.

I wouldn't want to watch Daredevil in just one weekend, but that's more because I'd like to prolong the experience of being told a new story. The same way I might slow down when getting near the end of a book I'm really enjoying. But I certainly wouldn't want to wait a week inbetween episodes if I have the option of watching several at once.

Sometimes with serialized stories the momentum can get lost waiting from week to week. Throw in the several weeks or months mid-season hiatus and repeat weeks and it gets even worse. There are many show I've watched that play so much better on blu-ray when you can take it all in over a much shorter period of time.
 

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