Cylinder Sub vs Box Sub

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  1. Jonathan VDM

    Jonathan VDM Auditioning

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    I am currently looking at the PB2-ISD, and the 16-46 PC+. They are both in my price range, and looks don't really matter to me. What I am wondering is what will work better for my situation. I'm pretty much 50/50 on music and HT, but want to make sure that I can get some real loud, clean, fast bass for both. I listen to a lot of techno/d&b which is definitely bass heavy. I am leaning towards the box because that's what I am used to using, but want to know if I will get more perfomance out of a cylinder sub. Thanks for any input. - Jony
     
  2. JohnSmith

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    Room size?

    When you've calibrated the speakers to 75dB to the 5.0 speakers, what do you calibrate the sub to?- 73, 75, 78dB?

    What is your normal listening volume for CD's (2 channel) and DVD's?
     
  3. Ralph B

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    I have had both subs and will say that I prefer the cylinder now that I own one. dont know if its the looks, how it fits into a corner so well or the better performance I think you can get from a cylinder. plus the cylinder just looks so damn cool and everyone wonders whats that! [​IMG]

    this cylinder the 25-31PC+ I have is great for music and listen to my SACD's every night and buy them every weel now. all because of my sub. never heard music sound so good !
     
  4. Jonathan VDM

    Jonathan VDM Auditioning

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    I would say my room is roughly 18x13'. I don't have a sub yet to speak of so I'm not sure what I would calibrate it too. My normal listening levels are at about -30 to -20 for music and -20 to 0 for DVD's. +10 is the max (the receiver is a Sony DA2000ES Digital Amp). Placement is going to be a bit ackward, and I believe I would have an easier time finding a spot for the cylinder. What are the major differences between the two? Do cylinder's handle movies better than box's? Do box's have more bass? Thanks
     
  5. Mike Reeter

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    Jon,The PB2-ISD should clean the PC's clock,the big box has 2 ISD drivers,verses 1 driver, plus a larger amp...but,those big boxes are BIG...The PC-Series subs have the advantage on placement with the smaller footprint...

    I was in the same boat,I opted for the PC-Ultra simply because I like the "look" and the easier placement of the cylinder subs...The PB2-ISD would have been a perfect sub for our set-up,I just could'nt get past the weight and the size of those BIG boxes...

    I could'nt be happier with the Ultra,it is appropriately named...
     
  6. David Ruggiero

    David Ruggiero Stunt Coordinator

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    Jonathon, I was considering a choice between the very 2 subs you have mentioned and Ron from Svs told me that the PB2-ISD would be the better choice. Since he runs/owns the company I figure he knows what he is talking about. [​IMG]
     
  7. ScottCarr

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    Jonathon,
    First ask the experts at SVS.

    Second Mike R was is absolutely right on. The PCUltra is AWESOME.

    My expereince with SVS is 2 PC+, then 2 PB2+ and now 2 PCultras.

    The winner in over al db is the PB2+s.
    But when comparing the boxes (stocked tuned to 25hz) to the 1646 cylinders the overall db gain may be negated. When I tuned the PC+ to 16hz all ports opened (not svs recommended) to the 16hz tuned box, the overall performance was with in 2db.

    Now with the PCUltras all I can say is heaven!!!!

    If it is overall db achieved with stock tunes the ISD will have an edge on the 1646. Tuned to 16hz, the 1646 wil make up a lot of ground. Speaking of ground will the PB2 box easily fit in the HT. Having a similar size HT the PB2 box took up a lot of real estate.

    Both are great subs and The svs folks will be able to better tell you which one will fit your goals.

    Scott
     
  8. Mike Reeter

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    Jon,I would say that Scott should be an SVS poster child!!!Don't let us sway your opinion,the SVS PB2-ISD has GOT to be the best value there is in the their line up...If you have the room for it,I'd go for it,period...

    Scott,If there ever was a Heaven on Earth,it must be in your HT room...
     

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