If anyone is looking for a cheaper 5.1 speaker setup, but is afraid of getting a HTIB, Crutchfield actually has a decent deal going right now. The Polk RTi38's and 28's have been on closeout for a while, but they are still in stock. During this week, Crutchfield has a deal (supposedly other stores too) where if you buy $500 of Polk speakers, you get a free PSW-202 subwoofer. You could get: Fronts: Polk RTi38 6.5" Bookshelf pair - $250 Rears: Polk RTi28 5.25" Bookshelf pair - $200 Center: Polk CSi30 5.25" Center - $150 Sub: Polk PSW-202 10" subwoofer - FREE Total is $600 (free shipping) for a full 5.1 setup that ain't too shabby! I actually ordered my Polk bookshelf speakers a few months back, but Crutchfield honored the deal for me.