CRT Connections - Advice Needed

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  1. BillGallagher

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    Here's my situation:

    1) Video Sources:
    a) Denon 1920 (480i or 480p), S-Video, Component, HDMI out,
    b) X-Box (480i), Component out,
    c) HDTV tuner (720p or 1080i - yet to get tuner), assuming component out.

    2) Receiver: Denon 3806 (S-Video, Component, HDMI in/out)

    3) Projector: Sony VPH-1272Q (currently only RGBHV in)

    I also have an older Deuce 2200 Intelligent Video Scaler with only S-Video In, and RGBHV out.

    My dilema:

    What is the best way to connect my sources?

    Option 1) Everything into the receiver (for switching) and out as single S-video (limited to 480i) to scaler, scale everything up, and then RGBHV directly out to projector. Total Cost = $130.00 (30' RGBHV Cable)

    Option 2) A Sony IFB-12 component input card for my projector (that may or may not be capable of 720p/1080i) and using my receiver to switch between video sources. Everything connected using component. Total Cost = $200.00 ($69 card + $130 cable)

    Option 3) A Moome IFB-M2005A+ component/DVI input card for my projector (that is capable of 720p/1080i) and use my receiver to switch between video sources. Everything connected using component. Total Cost = $310.00 ($180.00 card + $130 cable)

    Option 4) A $180.00 Moome IFB-M2005A+ component/DVI input card for my projector (that is capable of 720p/1080i) and use my receiver to switch between video sources. Everything connected using HDMI (DVI to projector). Total Cost = $390 ($180.00 card + $210.00 cable)

    Option 5) a Sony switch with 3 IFB-12*s (that may or may not be capable of 720p/1080i) - but then I get my receiver out of the loop. Everything connected using component. Total Cost = $340.00 ($210 switch w/cards + $130 cable)

    Option 6) HDConnection HDC1.1 transcoder (capable of 720p/1080i) and use my receiver to switch sources. Everything to receiver as component, then use the transcoder to go from component to existing RGBHV on projector. Total Cost = $445 ($315 transcoder + $130 cable)

    Option 7) a $800 DVDO HD+ video processor (capable of 720p/1080i and built in switch) and the Moome card. Everything component or HDMI/DVI Total Cost = $1,110 ($800 processor + $180.00 card + $130.00 cable)

    Whew...that was a mouthful... I sure hope someone has a recommendation!
     
  2. BillGallagher

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    I know this is a bit much to read, but does anyone know which is the best way (best picture for the money) to connect my VPH-1272.

    I'm leaning towards Option 3 or Option 4.
     
  3. Sami Kallio

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    Option 1 is definately out. Option 4 seems good to me but how are you getting $210 for cables?
     
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  6. BillGallagher

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    Assuming I go with the Moome card for my CRT PJ, does anyone know if there's an advantage using the HDMI out (#1 Below) from the Denon 3806 to the DVI in on projector instead of using the component (#2 Below)?:

    #1) DVD-->HDMI-->Receiver-->HDMI/DVI-->Moome card on CRT or

    #2) DVD-->Component-->Receiver-->Component-->Moome card on CRT

    Also, does anyone know where I can find the Moome card? I looked on Videogon and it appears that the cards are sold out.
     
  7. BillGallagher

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    The Moome card is indeed sold out. It looks like I am going to go with the JohnHWman card.
     
  8. JeremyErwin

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    The advantage of DVI (I'm assuming that it supports HDCP) is that some electronic devices (DVD players, for instance) will not output 720p/1080i/1080p over component.
     
  9. Sami Kallio

    Sami Kallio Screenwriter

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    Have you found a solution yet? My friend has the same projector and would like to know his options with HD broadcast and HD-DVD.
     
  10. BillGallagher

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    Hey Sami!

    I did find a solution. I went with the JohnHWman card. I ordered it on the 13th and it arrived on the 20th. Installed it a few days ago and so far it works great. I am going from the HDMI out on my receiver to the DVI card using a HDMI/DVI cable from Blue Jeans Cable.

    So far I have only gone to 480p, so I don't now how well the projector would handle 720p, but from what I've read, it'll probably be ok. Doesn't sound like the 1272 likes much more than 720p, so 1080p is out of the question.

    I haven't converged the lenses yet or inverted the image, so I've been watching an inverted and blurry LOTR. Will Saturday ever arrive....

    Let me know what you guys decide to do.
     
  11. ChrisWiggles

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    Hey Bill, have you also explored AVS CRT forum, and also the forum at Curt Palme's website?
     
  12. BillGallagher

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    I have and both have been great resources. AVS is where I received the advice about the Moome and JohnWMan cards.
     
  13. Sami Kallio

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    He ended up getting a single pass HDMI in - VGA out adapter. Supports both synced component and RGB. This could be an option if your receiver takes in the signals and passes them through HDMI, not just the HDMI input.

    We tested it with HD-A1 HD-DVD player and it does give out a beautiful picture from HDMI - VGA - RGB. PM me if you would like to get more details and I will find out from him what the box is called and where he got it.
     

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