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When I see Criterion releasing 4k remasters only on BD, I can't help but think back to the early days of DVD, when they refused to use anamorphic encoding. What a waste. . .
Does anyone know why Criterion were reluctant to use anamorphic encoding? MGM/UA were also culprits of this.

1.66 non-anamorphic looks weird on a 16:9 TV whereas a good quality 4:3 fullframe can look fine.

Of course, Criterion could be waiting to re-release all these titles in UHD for everyone to buy yet one more time!
 
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Does anyone know why Criterion were reluctant to use anamorphic encoding? MGM/UA were also culprits of this.

1.66 non-anamorphic looks weird on a 16:9 TV whereas a good quality 4:3 fullframe can look fine.

Of course, Criterion could be waiting to re-release all these titles in UHD for everyone to buy yet one more time!
In the early days of DVD, almost no one had 16:9 sets, and anamorphic discs looked worse on standard 4:3 televisions.
 

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In the early days of DVD, almost no one had 16:9 sets, and anamorphic discs looked worse on standard 4:3 televisions.
True, practically no 16:9 sets. Are you implying widescreen anamorphic looked worse than letterbox on a 4:3 set? If so, why?
 

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In the early days of DVD, almost no one had 16:9 sets, and anamorphic discs looked worse on standard 4:3 televisions.
Not to me, and until 2009 I was watching them via a standard-def 4x3 CRT projector on a screen 8 feet wide.
 

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Some of the earliest DVD players had trouble displaying anamorphic discs on a 4x3 set. The problem was solved pretty early on but Criterion stuck with non-anamorphic for longer than was necessary.
 

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Are you implying widescreen anamorphic looked worse than letterbox on a 4:3 set? If so, why?
Back in the day converting 16:9 to 4:3 frequently introduced a slew of visual artifacts ranging from normally straight lines becoming wavy to moire and banding.
 

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True, practically no 16:9 sets. Are you implying widescreen anamorphic looked worse than letterbox on a 4:3 set? If so, why?
The DVD player had to downconvert the 16:9 image to 4:3, which created picture artifacts. Toshiba and Panasonic players maintained a very sharp downconverted image, but at the expense of a lot of jaggies. Sony had a very smooth picture, but at the expense of sharpness. Pioneer and JVC split the difference. I remember testing a number of different machines when buying my first player and going with a Pioneer precisely because of the way it handled anamorphic downconversion.
 

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I understand how we got here...

But, fellas, can we get back to the subject at hand: Criterion's upcoming release of The Great Escape?

Thx.
 

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Will THE GREAT ESCAPE be from a new scan? The Criterion website doesn't state it's new. Usually, this means it's a preexisting master...could this mean same master with additional work done?
 

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Will THE GREAT ESCAPE be from a new scan? The Criterion website doesn't state it's new. Usually, this means it's a preexisting master...could this mean same master with additional work done?
The press release says

NEW 4K RESTORATION OF THE FILM, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray
 
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Is it absolutely confirmed that the film, plus the special features will be on a single BD 50? If so, this seems to be a bit of a waste, no? Especially considering the film runs 170 odd minutes.
 
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Is it absolutely confirmed that the film, plus the special features will be on a single BD 50? If so, this seems to be a bit of a waste, no? Especially considering the film runs 170 odd minutes.
I don't think this is going to be like It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World which was a 4 disc set.

Blu-ray.com is saying that it is a single BD 50.
 
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I don't think this is going to be like It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World which was a 4 disc set.

Blu-ray.com is saying that it is a single BD 50.
Blu-ray.com usually puts placeholder info before it is known what the contents will be. Could be different upon release.
 

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Blu-ray.com usually puts placeholder info before it is known what the contents will be. Could be different upon release.
Seems counter-intuitive to tout a new 4K Restoration and place that on a single BD alongside a boat load of special features. Beautiful transfer aside, if it has poor compression, I'm failing to see what the point is.
 
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The extras don't feature Rick Dalton's audition material or test footage. What the Hell? :)

- Walter
 

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Except he doesn’t think highly of the movie like some of us.
I'm never that bothered what a reviewer thinks of the film, I know what I like. I'm interested in the technical stuff, & this seems to pass with flying colours. I'll be very interested in what Robert Harris thinks. This film would always be in my top ten list.
 

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