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Press Release Criterion Press Release: The Great Escape (1963) (Blu-ray) Available for Preorder

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Ronald Epstein, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. RICK BOND

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    Finally a 4K Restoration ! Day 1 for me ! But I have to replace that cover art. Criterion does Lousy covers.
     
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    Well, it's about time. Now, can we get MGM to let Criterion have a crack at The Alamo?!?
     
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    I kind of love that new cover art of this upcoming release. I think it's kind of cool.
     
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    It will be interesting to see how those long dupe sections look in this version.
     
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    Yeah, lots of dissolves, lots of dupes. The one that bugs me is Bartlett being shown what the camps tailor has done to disguise the uninforms, that bloody duped shot goes on forever. I'd think the dupes will look just as bad, as there's only so much you can do with 57 year old faded dupes
     
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    Well, the MGM Blu-ray didn't look all that good, anyhow. Crumby, brownish color and overly contrasty. I was hoping a 4K scan from the OCN could happen, but I guess that element has either rotted away or was lost over time. In any case, this has simply got to look better than the original Blu release. Great news...I've been looking forward to this announcement for a long while.
     
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    I’d appreciate your comments when you have the time. While I don’t need to invest in another Blu-ray, I’d probably be willing to spring for iTunes if there’s a chance that the actual 4K version that the Criterion disc is based on gets hosted there. It happened for The Princess Bride so there’s a chance it could happen for The Great Escape.
     
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    Me too. It’s striking. Really looking forward to this one.
     
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    Here's a look at some of the covers this classic film has had over the years on many different media formats.

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    I always liked the look of the old CBS/Fox tapes with their standardized layouts. I especially liked (and this is totally silly to care about) when the tapes themselves came with a brown flap at the top instead of a black one.
     
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    CBS/FOX used the original poster art for most of their releases.
     
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    This is my overall problem with the Criterion release.

    Why not just take that 4k version and release it 4k?

    I think the last Blu-ray release looked pretty damn good, though I admit it has been a while since I have seen it.

    I have a problem shelling out the money for this title when it could very well be released in 4k down the road.
     
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    Yes, but maybe this is a title where a 4K release would just show up the limitations of the source materials. I'm not expecting miracles, a less cold picture & the 1991 commentary featuring John Sturges and Elmer Bernstein will be a good reason to rebuy it for me.
     
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    I’ve seen the film far too many times over the years for it to hold much interest now but that audio commentary might swing it for me as well. I assume that is from Criterion’s laser disc.
     
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    Fantastic news, especially that the Sturges/Bernstein commentary is
    included (I’ve never heard it). Hopefully
    the video will look more consistent than
    the MGM BluRay looks.
     
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    Yup, there's lot of great films that I've seen just too many times, lots of classic movies that aren't in my disc collection anymore (Citizen Kane for one). You can ruin a film for yourself by watching it too much, whereas a favourite music album, well, you can listen to it every month for the rest of your life, or some tracks from it, & that's the thing, with a film, you have to watch the whole thing. The Great Escape is still in my good books, & if it get's a region B release, & good reports & hits a good price, then I'll buy it, but no rush :)
     
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    Some films are like comfort food, or bring back
    the memory of seeing it for the first time, so certain films will never get old for me (I’ve
    watched Pulp Fiction at least 50 times to relive
    the memory of when I watched it when it was new in a Myrtle Beach S.C. theater for my first
    viewing).
     
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    Oh yes, I can still remember first seeing The Great Escape at my favourite local cinema in 1963 (Odeon, Westbourne Grove, West London) & again with my dad on TV on a rainy bank holiday. I must have read about six books on the actual escape, & the film for the most part is pure fantasy, but it's a movie, anyone wanting the facts should read a book.
     
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    I don't know about that. A lot of the studios have put the brakes on releasing vintage catalog in native 4K despite the fact they are doing 4K remasters before dumping them to 1080p. 4K's niche status hasn't exactly made the studios want to release 4K discs of their 4K product. So, as long as the new Great Escape transfer is a marked improvement over the old MGM/Fox release (and let's get real, here - there really is nowhere to go from that travesty except up) then this is a day one purchase for most anyone who is a hardcore collector of classic movies in general, war-themed product in particular, and Steve McQueen aficionados for sure!
     
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    Oh, Nick, completely understood!

    I think we are going to see next to nothing when it comes to putting catalog product on 4k.

    However, the digital marketplace is wide open. There's a lot of catalog product being released there in 4k. It costs the studio next to nothing compared to a 4k disc release.

    I am just wary of buying this from Criterion knowing that 4k transfer could be put online at some point.

    Listen, I love this film and under normal circumstances would probably buy it immediately. However, the current BD copy is pretty darn good and I'd hate to pay $30 for a disc only to see it available for eventual download in 4k.

    I feel bad discussing my preferences because the last thing I want to do is thread crap. I think this is a great release by Criterion.

    Also, if Criterion has the rights on this title, it may prevent any kind of 4k being pushed to digital anytime in the near future.
     

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