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Press Release Criterion Press Release: Matewan (Blu-ray)

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Ronald Epstein, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Sam Posten

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    I have some friends in the film, since they shot it here in WV, close to where the actual events happened. Sadly, the Mine Wars aren't really taught in schools here any longer. It's briefly covered in the WV History class that all 8th graders have to take, but isn't really given the importance that it should. Heck, I'd say that a good many people here under the age of 40 may not even know about it, even though many of those whose families worked in the mines probably either had a family member who was involved or at least know someone who had a family member affected by it. It was a terrible time in our state's history.

    Thurmond, the town where Matewan was filmed, is now a National Historic Site.
     
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    Excellent news!!! It will be fantastic to see this underrated, all but forgotten film in high def. I've seen Matewan a couple of times over the years; once on the old POS pan & scan DVD, and later on a much better Anamorphic Widescreen DVD; I think all of these are now OOP.

    This is one of Sayles' best films (though I think all of his movies are great), and sheds a light on events that I had previously been completely unaware of. Great attention to detail here re: the the recreation of the early 1900's era. Very disturbing story, especially given that it was all based on fact.

    Note that the film stars Will Oldham as the young preacher; much later, he was also in the great indie film Old Joy (2006).
     
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  4. Ronald Epstein

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    The price link below will take you directly to the product on Amazon. If you are using an adblocker you will not see link.

     
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    Ha - this is why I visited the thread!

    Never saw the movie so the green/teal impression caught me off-guard.

    I usually put faith in Criterion, but the coloring of "Bull Durham" shows they're not flawless.

    Glad to hear that "Matewan" is supposed to look this green!
     
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    I'm keeping my Canadian DVD, which has much more accurate color and which, for a DVD, looks sharp and detailed. I have watched the HTF Criterion interview video regarding the upcoming Blu-ray several times, and, sorry...the "new" color sucks. I've never EVER seen anything anywhere in real life that is colored this way unless one wears a pair of really crappy sunglasses, or looks at passing scenery through the top half of a window in a Greyhound bus. Can't Criterion admit this is too weird and might well turn off a lot of Sayles' fans, and simply include two versions on their Blu-ray, the second of which reflects a more earthy and natural color timing? Too late now, I fear. A favorite movie of mine. Completely disappointed. More Sayles coming, you say? Hope to hell it won't look like this!!
     
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    Criterion graded Bull Durham based off of Ron Shelton's own production materials and the final timed IP. Its actually more correct than the MGM.
     
  9. Colin Jacobson

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    Which is incorrect? The prior "Bull Durham" transfers? The Criterion "BD"? The prior "Matewan" transfers? The Criterion one?
     
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    I'll avoid a rehash of the "Bull Durham" issue.

    Anyway you look at it, the colors of "Matewan" will cause controversy.

    I'm about 1/3rd of the way into the Sayles/Wexler commentary - no discussion of color timing so far. Hoping maybe they'll mention something eventually...
     
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    I just watched the Criterion Blu-ray and then compared it to the Canadian DVD and there is definitely a new color timing to the film. If this is how Sayles wanted the film to look then I'm fine with it. I'll let other people gripe about what is accurate or not as just because something looks more pleasing to your eyes, it doesn't necessarily mean that's the look the director intended for it. I give the filmmakers leeway as to how they want their films to be presented. Very happy to finally have this on Blu-ray!
     
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    It doesn't matter as controversies about color timing will remain an issue for some people, no matter what the filmmaker's desire look for the film if it runs counter to a viewer's preferences. This "Matewan" Blu-ray will be such a controversy.
     
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    FWIW Sayles and Wexler apparently complain about the colors of the older transfer on the commentary track (recorded 6 years ago).
     
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    I don't recall that.

    I listened to the whole commentary and listened for mentions of the color scheme and didn't hear any. Maybe I missed something.

    FWIW, on the Blu-ray's documentary, the production designer refers to a palette primarily of "grays, dark blues and browns". No mention of greens...
     
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    I haven't listen to the audio commentary yet so it's something I'll try to do next week or in the near future.
     
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    Got my copy and a big improvement over the 1999 dvd release which was a 4:3 image. The Blu-ray is a little dark but it does not bother me at all.
     

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