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Press Release Criterion Press Release: All About Eve (Blu-ray)

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Ronald Epstein, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. Message #81 of 93 Dec 7, 2019
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    Will Krupp

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    The Caps-a-holic caps show no appreciable difference between the two:
    https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13605&d2=13606&c=5324

    If ANYTHING, I might go so far as the say that the older transfer has a miniscule edge over the Criterion, but nothing you'd even notice if you weren't comparing them.
     
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    The Criterion has consistently better compression throughout. Using the Ultra Zoom feature on the Caps screenshots shows the Fox transfer has a minute amount of moiring in comparison.
     
  3. Will Krupp

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    I used "miniscule" in one direction, you said "minute" in another. I think it's safe to say that, if the differences are so minor that you'd need a magnifying glass to tell them apart, we can pretty much call it a wash, lol.
     
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    Thank you gentlemen. As "extras" are unimportant to me, I won't bother with the second disc.
     
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    Some may "need a magnifying glass to tell them apart" but others here, me included, simply watch with a big enough screen.

    As with so many other differing HD transfers, perceived benefits depend on your set-up, viewing distance and other factors. The point is, they're anything but identical. That's important to some folks.
     
  6. Message #86 of 93 Dec 8, 2019
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    Will Krupp

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    Well, no, they're obviously not "identical," but the question was whether or not there was a great enough difference between the two to warrant an upgrade. Individual mileage may vary and anyone who HAS to own the Criterion should get it (by all means.) I still don't feel that anyone who only has ONE (whichever one that may be) will feel slighted in the least.

    By the way, I'm not seeing what I would call noticeable moire in the cap you posted. If anything, I'm seeing what looks like a more consistent grain field across the entire sample on the Fox (missing digital blobs like the one under her eye on the newer disc) and a smidge more detail in the full size caps. I would personally still give an ever so slight edge to the older transfer, extras notwithstanding.

    I'm only speaking for myself so you're, of course, not required to agree with me.
     
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    Fox looks better. Criterion lacks HF detail in comparison.
     
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    I agree ....
     
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    Not only were my plastic trays missing, not only did the goo half-rip the cover off the book, but the book was printed with some of the pages duplicated and others missing. So I've got a ripped book with 8 missing pages...I know they'll take care of it, though.
     
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    I hate when that happens. I got the Mel Brooks compilation set from Shout! during a sale, and the book component pages were stuck together!

    As for this, it feels disappointing that people feel the older transfer is better. You'd think the newer one would be better. Ah, that's what makes the world go 'round. You win some, you lose some. Some of the extras did look tempting, especially the Dick Cavett Show interview presumably in a much better quality than what you get on YouTube when you look for stuff like this.
     
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    I only just caught up with this thread this morning and read Will's evaluation of the transfer. I feel a lot better. I'll stay with my snazzy old digibook, thanks....
     
  12. Will Krupp

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    Well, thank you so much for the vote of confidence, Anthony. I just want to be very clear that I'm only evaluating the screen caps of the transfer as I didn't get the new Criterion. I didn't personally see enough difference between the two of them to upgrade but I don't want anybody to feel misled.
     
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    For the record, I received the new packaging from Criterion. It's so much better than the reviled original package.
     

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