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Criterion Blu-ray titles!

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Brandon Conway, May 7, 2008.

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  1. richardburton84

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    How would that make them lost? As far as I know, only one Best Picture nominee has been completely lost (The Patriot) with the winners still surviving.
     
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    I was referring to the Best Picture Winners that have not received a Blu-ray release, such as The Greatest Show On Earth, The Great Ziegfeld, etc. Gezzz I thought I was clear in my post.
     
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    Since Criterion already has discs made, collect them in a set and release. They could add a book and a bonus disc or two. No need to reauthor all the discs.

    AND, they could upgrade many of the films they haven't yet, like HAMLET, HENRY V, HENRY VIII, GREAT EXPECTATIONS, 49th PARALLEL, PYGMALION, ETC.

    And I, for one, would buy the set even though I have every Best Picture and nominee (save three).
     
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    I got you. :)
     
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    They are related by WINNING BEST PICTURE or being NOMINATED for it.

    And you fail to realize just how much the term "Oscar" helps sell.

    I would NEVER have gone to see films like "The Help," "District 9," " Winter's Bone," "Call me by your Name," "Brokeback Mountain," or purchased films like "A Thousand Clowns," "Nicholas and Alexandra," "Gandhi," "12 Angry Men," or "Pygmalion." And, having seen those last five BECAUSE they were nominated, I now LOVE them. Those 5 are some of my favorites. I would have NEVER seen them if not nominated.

    I'm not the only one like this. Don't write it off so quickly.
     
  6. Josh Steinberg

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    By the same token, I could just as easily say that you fail to realize how dramatically the sales of physical media, particularly catalog titles, has fallen by the year 2020.

    I have never stated that the movies themselves are completely without audience interest.

    Simply that the market for physical media is nowhere near what it once was. Titles that once sold tens of thousands of copies are now lucky to sell hundreds.

    The Criterion Channel would likely have better viewership streaming most of those titles than Criterion would selling them on disc.

    No one is suggesting that being nominated doesn’t bring attention to a film. It is simply that the vast majority of viewers have switched that attention from buying a physical object to viewing a stream, more likely than not as part of a a subscription. And as a result, the market for all physical titles has changed and what may have been viable ten or twenty years ago simply isn’t today.
     
  7. David Weicker

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    Why do keep hammering down with the doom and gloom. There are plenty of other threads discussing the supposed ‘death of physical’, This thread is about a company that is still actually releasing physical discs, and hasn’t noticeably changed their output volume.
     
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    I don’t see it as doom and gloom. A question was posed as to why a certain release strategy wasn’t being adopted; I offered a hypothesis based on current known conditions.

    Rather than being a doom and gloom scenario, I think things are actually great. With streaming, we have the ability to access a wider array than ever of content at prices cheaper than ever. With that taking over mainstream viewing habits and physical media collecting returning to a niche product status, it means that the companies remaining in business have to focus on smaller runs of high quality product aimed at collectors rather than trying to be everything for everyone. Just because I have thoughts on where the industry is going, based on both professional experience and years of being in this hobby, doesn’t mean I want physical media to die. I’ve bought more physical media in the last three years than I probably did in the ten years prior to that. It just means it’s a different ballgame today than it once was, that’s the only point I’ve intended to make. It’s hard for me to see it as bad when I compare the sheer number of things I used to have access to vs how that’s expanded to what’s available today, across the board, in all formats.
     
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    Yeah, that's what I'd be interested in.
     
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    Heck, I'd just be happy with an upgrade of "Z".
     
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    I'm pretty sure the folks at Criterion don't give a damn about the Oscars.
     
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    Come Oscar season they make a point to point out all the Oscar Winners they have in the collection.

    and in press releases they mention them, too.

    Not everyone cares about the Oscars, but lots of people do. Maybe a box set isn’t for everyone, but there are people who would buy one.
     
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    I would just for The Greatest Show on Earth.
     
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    In addition to Grand Budapest (April 28) and Me and You (April 28),
    We’re getting:

    Army of Shadows (April 7)
    Destry Rides Again (April 14)
    The Cremator (April 21)
     
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    Looking forward to Army of Shadows. I missed out on that one before it went out of print.
     
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    Fun slate (except for Me and You and Everyone We Know, which is awful). Nothing I need to grab, but definitely some good titles and glad to see Army of Shadows back in print.
     
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    Soooo does this mean Criterion and Canal have finally burried the hatchet?
     
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    Maybe Destry Rides Again, but I'm on the fence for that as well. Hardly any "must haves" coming down the Criterion Pike for me these days.
     
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    Last month - Show Boat
    This month - Destry Rides Again

    Still waiting on the hinted The Great Escape, and the rumored Three/Four Musketeers, and, of course, the problematic The Lady Eve
     
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