After much research on portable MP3 players with hard drives; yesterday I decided on the "Creative NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra 30GB Audio Player" for $ 269.00 from Circuit City. So far, after ripping 15 CDs in 2 nights it works flawlessly. The Media Source Organizer software that comes with it is a all-in-one ripper, playlist maker and even looks up the CD on the web and gets the tag info ! The ripping process is very fast - 10 minutes per CD to PC hard drive and 5 minutes to mp3 player ! While doing research i found the biggest complaint with mp3's with hard drives was freezing and skipping. That complaint was with the RCA models. The reviews on the Creative NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra 30GB Audio Player was almost all very positive. To play it safe I got the 2 year extened warranty. But mine plays great and the sound quality is crisp and clear not flat or too bassy. Some accessories I still need is a good FM tranmitter for the car. The cassite adapter hisses too much. And a spare battery; although today I played it for almost 5 hours and the battery indicator didn't budge ! So far (2 day honeymoon phase)I highly recommend this mp3 player !