Convinced I have better bass than my local multiplex

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  1. Carlo Medina

    Carlo Medina Executive Producer

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    I watched JP3 at the local mall multiplex (AMC 14) last summer. I distinctly remember thinking at specific points, gee there's an appropriate place for bass and I hardly hear any. This was during dinosaur steps, crashes, etc.
    Well, I had a chance to watch JP3 on my modest HT system, which has been AVIA & SPL calibrated, so my bass isn't overcooked by bad settings.
    Anyway, I specifically watched for the scenes I thought should have bass, and sure enough, there they were coming out of my Energy e:XL-S12...imagine if I'd had an SVS. [​IMG]
    So now I feel guilty for popping down $9.50 to go to that theater, double when I take my girlfriend. I should just wait until it goes to DVD...at least I'll know it will sound and look right, and I won't have rude people seated around me. [​IMG]
     
  2. Ron-P

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    I'm right there with ya Carlo.
    My HT sounds and looks better than the local Edwards trash theaters. I gave up and don't go anymore. Went once this past year to see Monsters Inc. (my daugher wanted to go). What a joke. Super dirty print, out of focus and the sound was no where near as good as my HT.
    It will most likely be another year before I go to a theater. Why waste the money?
    Peace Out~[​IMG]
     
  3. Ryan Wright

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    I'm with you on this one. The only thing the local cinema has on my home theater is that it has a bigger screen. However, when I watched Lord of the Rings last Saturday I noticed that the picture wasn't all that great. There were several scenes that seemed to be out of focus, and throughout the film I noticed scratches on the film. [​IMG]
    Jon
     
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  6. DanaA

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    The audio quality in all respects is better in my home theater. With regards to the bass in particular, I usually don't feel the sock to the stomach in the theater that I get at home. As far as theaters, I go to them, but usually end up getting mad at other film goers and hate the prices, sticky floors, and screwed up screens. Truthfully, I only go because I don't want to wait the 6 or so months that it takes to come out on DVD.
     
  7. DanaA

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    I want to add one more thing. Ryan was right about the restroom situation. At Lord of the Rings, I was drinking all this coke and that last hour's need to relieve myself was excruciating. At home, you want to pee, pause the DVD. You want a coke or snack, pause the thing. I'd much rather spend the money on a decent dinner, then come back and watch a DVD at home.
     
  8. Carlo Medina

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    Dana's story reminded me:

    When i saw LoTR last weekend, some girl needed to get up and use the bathroom...right during the Nazgul chasing Arwen/Frodo scene. She missed the whole thing. Her friend tried to catch her up, but they were already at Rivendell and preparing to meet, she had already missed too much.
     
  9. Jeffrey Forner

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    It depends on which theaters you visit.

    Overall, I would say that the vast majority of theaters I've been to cannot match the bass that I get out of my home theater with an SVS. It's not even close. However, I have been to two theaters in my area that sport bass every bit as good as what I can get at home. One of them is the Mann Cinema 12 in Plymouth, MN. The other is at the Carmike 15 in Apple Valley. If you go to the latter theater, make sure you see something on the really big screen. It’s worth it for both the visuals and audio.

    I visited the Carmike for the second time this past weekend for a screening of Fellowship of the Rings and I can confidently say that this theater would please each and every single one of you when it comes to bass mixes. When the Balrog appeared onscreen, the theater shook with each footstep. It was as if I was watching the movie the way it was intended by the filmmakers--with a huge screen and top notch sound. It literally couldn’t get any better than this.

    I should also give props to the theater in Alexandria, MN for having at least one theater with a great sound system. I went to go see Monsters, Inc. there about 6 weeks ago, and I was amazed at how good the bass was. Deep, tight, and earth-shattering. You could tell that Gary Rydstrom was having a good time mixing that movie.
     
  10. Ron-P

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    Well, your one of the lucky few Jeff. I am surrounded by the Giant Edwards theater chain. Once, they had a great set-up in Newport Beach, one of the first Edwards. It seats 1,250 people and sports the largest screen on the west coast. It had a kick-ass sound system to boot. Not sure what happened, but it's been run into the ground. Not maintained much anymore, sound system's all out of wack, it's sad.
    I much prefer waiting for the DVD and watching them in The Green Room.
    Peace Out~[​IMG]
     
  11. Carlo Medina

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    Jeff, you're absolutely correct. I will never be able to match, say, The Mann Chinese or The Mann Village (two theaters I love to go to) in anything, sound, picture, etc.
    But there are very few multiplexes near me that I can say I feel justified giving them my money. And unfortunately those two theaters don't carry all the movies I want to see, otherwise I'd exclusively go to those! [​IMG]
     
  12. DanaA

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    Ron and Jeffrey got me thinking. I've been to certain IMAX theaters where the sound systems were amazing. Now, that would be pretty much the ultimated home theater, sitting in front, dead-center, of a movie screen that is like 5 stories high.
     
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    No...No...No Dana, the utlimate HT would be like a ride at Disney's California Adventure, Soarin'.
    Imagine a screen concaved like half and egg shell. You sit down and the are lifted off the ground and placed inside the movie screen. No matter where you look, all you see is screen. As the movie plays you move ever so slightly with the picture, the air is permiated with the smells of the images you see. Add to that a kick-ass sound system and that would about sum-it-up.
    Peace Out~[​IMG]
     
  14. DanaA

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    Ron,

    LOL. Well then, you really have caused a headache for me now. Just after I installed the IMAX theater in my bedroom and was so happy about it, now I have to move it all out, so I can move in the Disney thing. I guess I'll put the IMAX into the master bedroom or maybe into the kid's bedroom so they can play their video games on it. It is virtually useless to me now.
     
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  16. Bill Catherall

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    I've been wondering lately if it would be profitable to run a proper theater. Something that really makes the "going out" part of the experience. First of all, with DVD becoming more popular and with the potential of better image and sound in every home, I wonder how much longer the theater chains will be able to stay on top of things. Second, I think people really do want to have the experience but don't want to put up with the trashy multiplexes. Here's my idea:
    A theater that houses multiple screens, but doesn't have a multiplex atmosphere. The sound and image would be as good as possible. State of the art equipment that is maintained properly and operated by trained professionals. Real ushers, not just ticket takers. At least 10 ushers per screen before the movie starts with 4 that are there throughout the movie to help late-comers to find seats and to hush talkers and escort out cell-phone users to be properly kicked in the tushy on the way out. [​IMG]
    Seating that is semi-reclinable and floors that are never sticky. There will be enough time between showings for all popcorn and trash to be properly cleaned up and all spills mopped.
    Free valet parking with a movie stub. Stop at the front and let a valet park your car. When you leave just give him your movie stub and your valet ticket and he gets your car for free. (There would be a fee for people that use the valet parking for other local stores/restaurants, but stores/restaurants can also validate the valet ticket to either cover or lower the cost.)
    One of the screens would be dedicated to showing indy movies only.
    I have no natural business sense and I've never taken any classes so I don't know the economics of doing this. I imagine ticket prices would have to be significantly more expensive to balance out operating costs. But for one thing, it will keep out the undesirable people that just go to theaters to "hang out" and cause trouble. Also, if people really see the value to the services offered, they might not mind paying a lot more for a ticket. You could probably sell concessions cheaper than the other places. This might help to balance and even justify the higher priced tickets. People would feel that they were really getting their money's worth and not just being gouged "because we can."
     
  17. BryanZ

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    My HT easily outclasses 99.5% of the theaters where I live. The bass of the SVS just has no equal. You get spoiled by it. That being said, I went to see LOTR on opening day. That was the for theaters. Watching a fantastic movie with a large group of people with narry a word being said and no cell phones/pagers going off or people talking during the movie. A remarkable experience that I can only wish would be made much more prevelent.
     
  18. Philip_G

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    Bill- I've read of upscale theaters in new york or somewhere using your idea, only if I remember right they server you a meal beforehand, and when the show starts they move you and your meal to the theater or something..

    I don't know about it's profitability, the average theater isn't making a killing selling tickets for 6.75 and paying it's employees 5.15 an hour, what it does make is usually off concessions, so your ticket prices would have to be REALLY high to offset labor, and equipment costs, I'd guess you're looking at 30 grand per screen just in audio equipment, when a DTS unit is like 5 grand alone.. plus dolby whatever that costs, and SDDS is you wanted it. at least 5 healthy amps and speakers.. not to mention the expense for THX if you go that route.
     

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