I've had my share of closed threads. Sometimes, I have asked for a cyber-smack on the side of the head by what I've said. Sometimes, I've asked a legitimate question and seen my thread deteriorate into lunacy. I've watched others here start threads with interesting (or not!) headers and then seen the whole discussion promptly veer off into the dark side. My premise is this: If we can't start controversial threads and engage in controversial disucssions without descending into a cacaphony of quackiness, personal attacks (as opposed to passionate discussion of the issues) or derailing a poster's original intent; then we are collectively weakend by the exercise. The nature of disucssion is shallower, and wisdom, knowledge, learning and other positives are compromised. My question(s) (are) is this, as indicated in the header. Is the ability to take part in a controversial discussion, 'Art?' How many of us cringe from asking a question or making a statement because we know where it will - or at least suspect, might go? I've 'read it said' several times at various places on the boards that the 'level' of disucssion has gone downhill as the HTF grows. Well, why is that? Have we stopped asking the important questions? Does the proliferation of Star Wars thread indicate a lack of intelligence or relevance? Is it just a perceptiion? I am not talking about politics or religion here, but I am suggesting that many, many issues touch on both those areas, and there seems to be a persistant inability for many people here to exercise a certain degree of self-censorship when threads even remotely broach these topics. How can you discuss movies, for example, without reaching into politics or religion? But surely, we should be able to engage each other without condemning the other to hell for a view contrary to our own? So, there you have it! I like controversy; it's interesting; brings vitality to the boards, and can be fun when dispensed with respect and attention to the issues at hand. What's it gonna take to see more of this?