Considering selling OOP & Uber-rare stuff (Criterion, Dolby)

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  1. Vince Maskeeper

    Vince Maskeeper Producer

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    Well, since my Denon receiver refuses to sync to my HTPC, it's time to get a new receiver solution. I figure I'll break down and buy and Outlaw 950, but in order to afford it, I'd have to part with some rare titles that I'd rather not lose. However, if I could get healthy money for these items- I'd sell.
    So, these aren't amazing prices (based on average Ebay selling prices), but I'm hoping someone will take pity on my electronics situation and consider the extra few bucks as a donation to my cause [​IMG]
    Spinal Tap Criterion
    OOP, Rare.
    Excellent condition.
    Asking $110
    Hard Boiled
    OOP, Rare.
    Excellent condition.
    Asking $75
    Sid and Nancy Criterion.
    OOP, Rare.
    Excellent condition.
    Asking $75
    Dead Ringers Criterion
    OOP, Rare.
    Sealed
    Asking $50
    Silence of the Lambs Criterion.
    OOP, Rare.
    Excellent condition, original (non-bootleg) cover.
    Asking $40
    Robocop Criterion
    OOP, Rare.
    Excellent condition.
    Asking $35
    Also, I have a rather rare Dolby calibration and ref test disc, put out by Dolby Labs. A setup disc similar to VE, only far more indepth, with dolby specific audio tests which include complete diagnostics for mode switching, dialog norm, decoder headroom, various Dolby bitrate tests (orchestral recordings in 5.1 at various bitrates and channel couplings) and much much more. This thing is uber complete- offers complete freq sweeps for every channel in a 5.1 environment, as well a pink and white bursts, and lots more. The disc also includes all of the Dolby Trailers up to Aurora, and the "Dolby Digital Story" documentary.
    I have never seen this DVD anywhere, and have been told it was designed for dolby certified HT installer program that never happened-- and offered to consumers for a few weeks on the Dolby Website before they were pulled.
    I can print a complete test listing for anyone interested. I also have a photo copied "manual" for the disc from Dolby (which I had to jump through hoops to get, as I think this disc was never intended for consumers).
    Anyway, I'm looking for $150 for this disc, as it is nearly one of a kind and offers calibration material available nowhere else. It is packaged in a jewel case (as it came originally)- but I'd be happy to whip up a keepcase insert based on the jewel case artwork.
    So, this post is basically a feeler to see if there is any market for these discs. I'm not 100% sure I want to sell just yet- but thought I would see if there were any offers.
    -Vince
     
  2. Nathan*W

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    Vince, I'd be interested in the Silence disc.
     
  3. Vince Maskeeper

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    Due to some requests for further info on the dolby disc- here is a basic flowchart of what is included:
    -Dolby Digital Story
    --6 minute presentation on the history of DD for the Home Theater (in 5.1, features 2 dolby trailers during the presentation).
    -Additional Trailers
    --Train (30 seconds/5.1/4:3)
    --Temple (30 seconds/5.1/Non-Anamorphic Letterbox)
    --City (30 seconds/5.1/4:3)
    --Canyon (30 seconds/5.1/Non-Anamorphic Letterbox)
    -Additional Music Demo Material
    --1812 Overture Opus 49 by Tchaikovsky (5.1 mix)
    --Dixit courtesy of Consort of Voices (5.1 mix)
    --Even If You Wonder by Earth Wind and Fire (5.1 mix)
    --Even If You Wonder by Earth Wind and Fire (2.0 Lt/Rt downmix with Lt/Rt flag set)
    --Even If You Wonder by Earth Wind and Fire (2.0 Lt/Rt downmix with Lt/Rt flag not set)
    -2 Channel Test Signals
    --Calibrating System Gain
    ---(400Hz @ -20dBFS)
    ---(997Hz @ -20dBFS)
    ---(2kHz @ -20dBFS)
    --Decoder Dynamic Range
    ---(20Hz @ -60dBFS)
    ---(16 Bit Test [200Hz @ -60 dBFS 16 bit source])
    ---(18 Bit Test [200Hz @ -60 dBFS 18 bit source])
    ---(20 Bit Test [200Hz @ -60 dBFS 20 bit source])
    ---(2kHz @ -60dBFS)
    ---(20kHz @ -60dBFS)
    ---(MTone @ -60dBFS)
    --Frequency Response
    ---(Left Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS])
    ---(Right Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS])
    ---(L R Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS])
    --Pink Noise
    ---(Pink @ 0dBFS L & R)
    --White Noise
    ---(White @ 0dBFS L & R)
    --Compression
    ---(400HZ 0dBFS to -60dBFS)
    --Dialog Normalization
    ---(1kHZ 0dBFS)
    --D/A Converter
    ---(4kHZ 0dBFS to -120dBFS fade)
    --Noise Modulation
    ---(41HZ 0dBFS to -120dBFS fade)
    --Distortion
    ---(Left 997HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(Right 997HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(L R 997HZ @ 0dBFS)
    -5.1 Channel Test Signals
    --System Gain
    ---(400Hz @ -20dBFS)
    ---(997Hz @ -20dBFS)
    ---(2kHz @ -20dBFS)
    --Dynamic Range
    ---(20Hz @ -60dBFS)
    ---(16 Bit Test [200Hz @ -60 dBFS 16 bit source])
    ---(18 Bit Test [200Hz @ -60 dBFS 18 bit source])
    ---(20 Bit Test [200Hz @ -60 dBFS 20 bit source])
    ---(2kHz @ -60dBFS)
    ---(20kHz @ -60dBFS)
    ---(MTone @ -60dBFS)
    --Modes and Channels
    ---(Mtone @ -20dBFS)
    ---(Voices)
    --Downmix Operations
    ---(Downmix LoRo [Proper operation gives no signal in downmix mode])
    ---(Downmix LtRt [Proper operation gives no signal in downmix mode])
    --Frequency Response
    ---(Left Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS])
    ---(Center Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS])
    ---(Right Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS])
    ---(LeftSurround Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS])
    ---(RightSurround Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS])
    ---(LFE Sweep [20HZ to 120HZ @ -20dBFS])
    ---(3/2/.1 Sweep [20HZ to 20kHZ @ -20dBFS Main] / [20HZ to 120HZ @ -20dBFS LFE])
    --Pro Logic Decoding
    ---(3/2 Noise [Pink Test Signal For level Calibration 5.0])
    ---(2/0 Noise [Pink Test Signal For level Calibration 2.0])
    --Pro Logic Levels
    ---(2kHz @ -20dBFS Lt [Lt/Rt Flag On])
    ---(2kHz @ -20dBFS L [Lt/Rt Flag Off])
    --Karaoke Modes
    ---(Karaoke Test 1 "See Manual For More Information")
    ---(Karaoke Test 2 "See Manual For More Information")
    ---(Karaoke Test 3 "See Manual For More Information")
    ---(Karaoke Test 4 "See Manual For More Information")
    ---(Karaoke Test 5 "See Manual For More Information")
    ---(Karaoke Test 6 "See Manual For More Information")
    --Polarity
    ---(Polarity 1 [Asymmetrical 400Hz tone @ -20dBFS])
    ---(Polarity 2 [1ms @ -20dBFS followed by 49ms @ -inf])
    ---(Polarity 3 [Acoustic Polarity- 3 positive, 1 reverse])
    --Pink Noise
    ---(Pink @ 0dBFS 3/2/.1)
    --White Noise
    ---(White @ 0dBFS 3/2/.1)
    --Downmixing
    ---(Downmix Overload Test [2kHz @ Full Scale 3/2)
    --Compression
    ---(400HZ 0dBFS to -60dBFS)
    --Dialog Normalization
    ---(1kHZ @ 0dBFS / 100Hz @ 0dBFS LFE)
    --D/A Converters
    ---(4kHZ 0dBFS to -120dBFS fade)
    --Noise Modulation
    ---(41HZ 0dBFS to -120dBFS fade)
    --Distortion
    ---(Left 997HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(Center 997HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(Right 997HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(Ls 997HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(Rs 997HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(LFE 30HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(5 x 30HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(6 x 30HZ @ 0dBFS)
    ---(6 x 30HZ @ -3dBFS)
    -Complex Test Signals (2 minute orchestral clips in 5.1)
    --Difficult Test 1 (384kbps/Bandwidth 18.1kHz/Coupling 10.2kHz)
    --Difficult Test 2 (384kbps/Bandwidth 20.3kHz/Coupling 6.8kHz)
    --Difficult Test 3 (384kbps/Bandwidth 21.4kHz/Coupling 5.7kHz)
    --Difficult Test 4 (384kbps/Bandwidth 22.6kHz/Coupling 4.6kHz)
    --Difficult Test 5 (384kbps/Bandwidth 23.7kHz/Coupling 3.4kHz)
    --Difficult Test 6 (448kbps/Bandwidth 18.1kHz/Coupling 10.2kHz)
    --Difficult Test 7 (448kbps/Bandwidth 20.3kHz/Coupling 6.8kHz)
    --Difficult Test 8 (448kbps/Bandwidth 21.4kHz/Coupling 5.7kHz)
    --Difficult Test 9 (448kbps/Bandwidth 22.6kHz/Coupling 4.6kHz)
    --Difficult Test 10 (448kbps/Bandwidth 23.7kHz/Coupling 3.4kHz)
    -Additional Test Signals
    --Video Interference
    ---(A couple dozen video test patters like those found on VE or AVIA: Crosshatch, Checker, Colorbars, Pluge, etc. & patterns in all.)
    --5ch/Pro Logic Switching
    ---(Signals varying between 2 channel and 5 channel- to test the auto-switching detection on decoders)
    --BSI Testing
    ---(BSI Testing. 8 BSI Tests. "See manual for more information". Is 2/6 channel audio signal of planes and cars doing fast drive bys.)
    --Error Concealment
    ---(Intentionally errored digital signal to test error concealment/decoders ability to deal with errors. 5 error concealment test signals)
    **Data Rate Sweep (there is no menu item for this, but it is title 79 chapt 1)
    ---(96kbps - 112kbps - 128kbps - 160kbps - 192kbps - 224kbps - 256kbps - 320kbps - 384kbps - 448kbps)
    So, it pretty much does anything on the planet. With this and some minor testing equipment, you could give any decoder system a complete workout...
    -Vince
     
  4. Joe Hsu

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    Someone suggested something in your DIY thread, and I concur...if you could find someone you trust with a DVD burner, maybe you could work something out with the guy so that more of us on the forums can benefit from having the disk, but only paying...I dunno, $25 a DVD? I mean, if you sell just 6 of them, that's the price you're asking for, and I'd suspect that many more than that would want a copy.
    Granted, you may have more ethics in place, when it concerns piracy like this, so maybe I'll shut up. [​IMG]
     
  5. Vince Maskeeper

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    Joe,

    As mentioned in the DIY thread- I'm not in support of piracy. If you'd like to buy the disc and do with it what you'd like, feel free. I'm asking $150 for it- the buyer can then choose their path based on their own ethics.

    -Vince
     
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    Sold the Dolby Disc and Sid & Nancy.

    Will probably hold on the other Criterion titles for a few weeks until I determine how much $$$ I'll need for the 950.

    If anyone is interetsed in these titles- drop me an email and I'll add you to the list.

    Thanks

    Vince
     

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