For me, I have found the Panasonic SA-XR50 to be superior to the $800 dollar receivers I have owned. It blew the Elite VSX-41 out of the water. Better sound (barely) than the Yamaha HTR-5590 but not as much power. I realize power and speaker connectors are a drawback for some. Otherwise, with these amps being so much cheaper than their counterparts, why not make them an option for any new receiver purchase?