Conan in Mono (again), What a shame...

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  1. Frank@N

    [email protected] Screenwriter

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    I don't know if Conan gets the respect it deserves among today's movie fans, but it's a favorite of mine.

    Touched by the twin madness and genius of John Milius and Oliver Stone, this tactile production is completely unlike the PG-rated, commercially pandering, CGI fake fests that have become so common today's cinema.

    James Earl Jones also delivers one cinemas most chilling and fully realized villains.

    Ironically, it's Jones who so accurately elaborates in extras regarding 'when' Conan becomes a hero in the film.

    Also in the extras, it's noted that the score of the film needed to carry the emotional tone of many sequences, due to the lower than usual amount of dialog.

    And what music it is! Soaring, menacing, and majestic.

    Music inhabits this film like few others I can recall.

    As such, it's a real disappointment to hear the film in Mono yet again.

    Now in it's second DVD release, I've given up on a multi-channel over-haul and decided to pony up.

    To imagine Conan 5.1, all one has to do is turn up the looping sound on the disc's menu and enjoy. Short but sweet. What a shame.

    The comprehensive extras also include multi-track sound, particularly the extended montage of productions stills and concept drawings (all music).

    Crom must indeed live on a mountain and care little for the affairs of men, otherwise we would have 5.1 Conan.
     
  2. Chad R

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    It was mono originally so that serves just fine for me.

    However, I seem to remember hearing that the overseas release was remixed into 5.1, so don't give up a hope.
     
  3. John Stone

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    I'm another who is content with mono sound for Conan, but I completely agree with you about the film. I grew up with it, and I love it--especially the music. The score is, without a doubt, one of my all-time favorites. I hope you get your wish!
     
  4. Larry Bevil

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    Yes, the R-4 version of Conan the Barbarian was re-mixed to DD 5.1. It does sound good to me.
     
  5. Dave H

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    They should have made a 5.1 track for this disc. The transfer is very good, but the current mono track doesn't match up to it, although it is original. I know many purists hate the soundtracks to Jaws, Terminator: SE, and Superman: SE, but I dream about Conan sounding like those.

    Hell, even if it sounded like Back to the Future, I would be happy.
     
  6. JulianK

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    Most European versions of Conan The Barbarian (including the UK re-release from Fox) have 5.1 audio.
     
  7. James Reader

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    Do they include the original Mono mix as well Julian?
     
  8. Douglas R

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    James, the R2 version does not include the original mono soundtrack but the 5.1 track essentially adds little more than a stereo mix to the music and, as such, I think it is does nothing but improve ones enjoyment of the film - especially if you like film music.
     
  9. Jon Smith

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    dont get the R2, its cut.

    go for the R4

    yes ive also heard the 5.1 remix is very good for the music.
     
  10. Scott Dill

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    Sorry, but saying that a mono film should be re-mixed into multi-channel is the same thing as saying that a black and white film should be colorized or that a 4 X 3 film should be cropped to be "widescreen". It, like Jaws is a mono film and I am content with it that way.
    I too love this film and the latest DVD is excellent in IMHO.
     
  11. James Reader

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    I've no problem with soundtrack remixes (event if new foley effects are inserted or replaced) as long as the original soundtrack is avaialble on the DVD aswell.
     
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    I think the R1 version of Conan The Barbarian is great. Anamorphic Widescreen and the original sound mix (or something close to it.) Plus a hilarious commentary and other stuff. No complaints here. As mentioned above, Universal would do better to reissue Jaws with the mono soundtrack than to expand Conan's.
     
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    Once again I am perplexed by members who would be aghast at a pan and scan alteration of Conan but long for alterations to its original soundtrack!
    I guess consistency in fidelity to the original source material goes out the window when you want your surround stereo system to get a good workout while watching your DVDs.
     
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    Dude, this is a very good mono mix, don't knock it. 5.1 is fine, but it really tears me apart when the original sound mix is not included. I've loved Conan TB since I was a kid, and am completely happy with the current release. If another release were to come along (which it probably will when King Conan gets released), I hope the original mono track is included. It won't take up much real estate.
     
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    If they do a good job with the full remix and include the original track, then I'd be happy.

    Das Boot was mono originally. I'm very, very glad they remixed it (basically redoing the whole thing) to 8 channel surround for SDDS theaters and downmixing it to 5.1 for DVD.

    Dan
     
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