Component System It Is!

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  1. Shana

    Shana Stunt Coordinator

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    After spending last evening at BB, I have decided that I am going to go for the component system. Now I have a much better understanding as to what you guys have been talking about but of course not all my questions have been answered. And, I have decided that I must have a new TV. (I have blown off the previous budget after salivating at everything last night.)
    I really like the looks of the flat screen tvs, plus the fact that they have all those component and s-video doohickeys. They have a Sony Wega 27" for $529, and I saw an open item 32" for $759 that was returned the day before. Any suggestions on what may be a better choice? They even had an Advent FSTV that looked really good for $399 and I asked the salesperson who made that brand and he said they have been trying to figure that out.
    Now that I am looking at seperate components, does the receiver have to have the component and s-video input/outputs or does just the DVD player? What's the difference between input and output? Would you need s-video if you already have component?
    The salesperson said that to have surround sound on the Directv my RCA receiver would have to have Digital Audio on the back, otherwise I would have to buy another Directv receiver or I would hear it only out of two speakers. So I will have to look behind the entertainment center when I have some help. I could get the Directv with Ultimate TV (Tivo) for $99 but it costs $9.99 per month addl. for that service. Does Tivo require a monthly sub.?
    Again, thank you, thank you all for your help!
    Shana
     
  2. Dustin B

    Dustin B Producer

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    I won't make TV recommendations, I'm not up to speed on that apsect of things, others here will help you out though.
    As for surround sound from the Direct TV receiver the salesperson was wrong. The only thing you need the digital connection for is for Dolby Digital. The only Dolby Digital programming on satellite is on a select few movies on the movie channels and pay per view channels. The rest is either stereo or prologic (which is surround sound) both of which only require the red and white connectors to get.
    These posts in the primer should help with understanding audio formats:
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...033#post513033
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...917#post512917
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...764#post552764
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...082#post513082
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...283#post564283
    As for the inputs and outputs, try these posts in the primer:
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...550#post531550
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...305#post564305
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...595#post560595
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...826#post559826
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...769#post652769
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...260#post608260
    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...293#post563293
     
  3. David Ison

    David Ison Stunt Coordinator

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    Shana i think the advent is made in china , i believe advent is now owned by recoton ,i could be wrong, i really like the sony,759 seems to be a good price. The salesman is wrong, you don't need digital audio outputs on the direct tv to get surround , it won't be DD or DTS, but you will get pro logic if you receiver has it (most do ) this will be derived from the two channel output into your receiver . it is not necessary to have component inputs on your receiver ,but it is so on the t.v., if the t.v. doesn't you won't get the benefit of component outputs on your dvd.Run the audio ouyputs from the dvd to the rec., run the video output straight to the inputs on the t.v.
    An output sends the signal ,be it dvd,a tape player, turntable, what have you to the inputs of an other device , in this case your receiver, in other words an output sends , an input receives the signal.
     
  4. Juan Castillo

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    depends on what part of the state you are in, North Texans dont need component inputs on their tv's, while South Texans do.. [​IMG] just kidding, the benefit of having multiple types of inputs on your reciever, is that you can run a myriad of devices with only with the same connection type to the reciever, and run one of each connection type to the tv. Also helps keep multiple signals going to the TV at once, since you would have to select the one you want on the receiver first.. Texas HT Rules!
     
  5. Greg*go

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    Shana,
    I could be wrong, but I think the only real advantage with component outputs is if you have a progressive scan DVD player. The progressive scan needs to be run through component cables. Otherwise, S-video is just as good.
    Greg.
     
  6. Dustin B

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    I'll second that notion. I don't think you need component for progressive scan, Svideo can still do it I believe. But without a high end set and a line doubled progressive scan player I don't think you could tell the difference between Svideo and component. I know I couldn't with my Sony KP43T70 and Panasonic A120 DVD player when I tried it. Component and Svideo both looked identical to me.
     
  7. Robert_J

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  8. Vlad D

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    I believe you do need component video connections for progressive scan. Progressive scan players output the 480p signal through component (YPbPr) form. It cannot be sent through S-video.
     
  9. Bill Kane

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    Shana,

    I'll observe that it's much easier to play the receiver-and-speaker game since there are so many, in so many affordable price ranges, to choose. That's why you see so many people here always talking about changing out one piece for another all the time.

    But I think the video display is the HT system cornerstone -- and the most expensive decision you will have to make. Watching original aspect (letterboxed) DVDs on a puny 27inch screen isn't much of an experience. Moving up to rear projection tv boxes, you'll see people saying after awhile they wish they had got the next larger size!

    So you need to decide how large a tube-type screen you can get (most are under 39inch); if it is HD-ready if that's in your future; and if you want to make the future-proof move to 16:9 widescreen, the format regular television is spozed to be broadcast in a few years.

    I'm sure you're aware you can get some HD programming from satellite tv; you do need a set-top box that specifically decodes the HD signal as well as the rest of the satellite channels. It's also possible to pull in HD programs off-the-air with a rooftop antenna (ABC, CBS) if you live close enough to the tv station transmitters.

    A progressive-scan DVD player (Component cable) is available today for $180(Panasonic RP62). Your new tv likely will accept the Component cable connection from the DVD player. And the audio-video receiver you buy ought to have component input/output as well. (Another thing to look for in the receiver/amp is Dolby ProLogic II capability while you're at it, since more makers are including this chip in less expensive models.)

    enough...you're getting technical overload....

    bill
     
  10. Shana

    Shana Stunt Coordinator

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    Howdy, y'all from smog city [​IMG] ,
    Well I took the plunge and followed I believe Darren's advice and ordered the Yamaha HTR-5550 receiver today. My next phase is speakers, then dvd player. There will be a TV thrown in there somewhere.
    I'm just bummed that I don't want to update my den too much right now as my house may be very torn up soon with plumbing and possible mold problems. Egads!
    I'm just thrilled that I have done one thing. Ordered from www.jandr.com actually ordered via phone as I had to call to get the price for the receiver. It was $70 less than BB, plus free shipping!
    Once I see how the receiver arrives, I may order the speakers through them as they have very good deals and very good customer service (so far).
    Have a great evening!
    Shana
     

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