Color timing: What is it?

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  1. JJR512

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    What, exactly, is color timing? Why does color need to be timed and how is it done? I would like a good, detailed, technical yet easy-to-understand explanation of what it is, why it's necessary, and how it's done. Thanks! [​IMG]
     
  2. ChrisMatson

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    It is basically changing the colors of a shot to achieve the desired look. This can now be done digitally. O Brother Where Art Thou is a great example. It was the first movie to be completely color timed digitally.

    Click here for some examples and a more detailed explanation:
    http://www.filmimaging.com/2003/08_a...iators0803.htm
     
  3. Jason Harbaugh

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    Is there home pc software that allows you to color time your home movies, relatively easily? Do any of the personal video editing programs have features that allow this?

    Say I want to give something a movie a bluish/silver tint like in Payback, or a gold hue like 187.
     
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    I assume color timing also has something to do with color accuracy between frames? That is, that the color also has to be consistent within a scene? For example, can we say that the color timing in the Superbit version of Lawrence of Arabia is superior to the first version? Or is this only limited to film production, and not film replication/transfer?

    I guess it has nothing to do with film transfers (to video, DVD, and other media) after all.
     
  5. Scott_MacD

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    Chris, I thought Pleasantville was completely colour graded digitally, back in 1998.

    EDIT: Rats.. I forgot that the opening and closing moments are untouched.. close call, tho. [​IMG]
     
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    color timing is the colorisation of film as it is being developed, and has to do with the chemical process involved in creating colorized prints. Leaving it longer in certain baths of chemicals or shorter, will give different results, causing a shift to blue or amber or whater is desired. It will be one of those terms that becomes obsolete as digital processes take over, and the term remains, but the origion will be more mysterious to future generations [​IMG]


    chris
     
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    Pick up a copy of the r1 release of O Brother - there is a great little feature about the colour timing on that film. With raw footage of the stars running through lush green fields, and hen colour timing to give the film its autumnal look.

    There's also a feature about this on the LOTR:FOTR:EE.
     
  10. Markus Lidstrom

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    They have a demonstration of this on the Se7en DVD as well.
     
  11. JohnRice

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    Matthew, it's been a while since I saw that feature, but I think, technically, that wasn't timing in O Brother but actually digital manipulation. What they did was far more flexible than regular timing. As I recall, Se7en is traditional timing. Guess I should watch both those features since I have them both.
     
  12. JohnRice

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    It's always interesting that a question like this gets so many different answers and everyone is certain they are right.
     
  13. MatthewLouwrens

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    The quote from Robert Harris

     
  15. JohnRice

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    Brian, that is from the cine thread, isn't it?


    Thanks for being less lazy than I am, finding the post and quoting it here.
     

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