I thought I had pretty much settled on the 4ES when a new finding is making me rethink my 4ES decision. This has to do with Cinema Studio modes. I used to own a 555ES and really enjoyed Cinema modes with music/movies. However recently Aaron, Brett and Mark made me aware of something the 4ES could not do, i.e. turn PRO-Logic "off" in the Cinema Modes, a bummer I think. What I want to know from 5ES owners is this, Does the sound in Cinema modes when used for music really compare to Logic 7? Are the surrounds in stereo or mono in the Cinema Modes with the Pro-Logic turned off? Are the surrounds in full frequency (20-20000) as in DPL-II? How do the Cinema modes (DPL off) compare to DPl-II Movie mode when watching 2 channel stereo broadcasts? I am asking these questions because I can get the 5ES for $650 including taxes and I have to make my decision fast. I chose the 4ES because of the 12V triggers but can live without them. PLease respond sort of urgently as I have to make my decision by tomorrow since I have the 5ES on hold for a day. Thanks.