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Discussion in 'After Hours Lounge (Off Topic)' started by Max Leung, Oct 12, 2005.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...nal/TopStories Quite an accomplishment - but...pig sperm?
I saw something about the launch last night. The report was showed the proud father of one of the astronauts moving the TV to the living so all the neighbors can see his son blast off. Then it show the astronaut's younger brother telling the bed-ridden mom that her son is now in space. You didn't see the "Pigs in Space" segment on The Muppet Show?
Yes I did - but I don't remember Miss Piggy and the captain shagging in the zero-G environment!
Found a picture of this before launch. The way I read the sign, it says "Space Travel Military Research Project". Do you know that I don't like the idea? I'm all for space travel, but I distrust the Red Chinese government like a room full of blasting caps and bear traps.
Well, our space program certainly started out as a military one.
While the Air Force was developing techniques which were in some ways superior to what we eventually ended up using, it's a fact that President Kennedy specifically ordered that the manned space programme should be an entirely civilan endeavour under the control of what became NASA. Of course, our first astronauts were military pilots because they formed an easily-tapped talent pool of people with the right qualifications, but the manned missions [up until the introduction of the Shuttle at least] were all of a purely peaceful nature, and the United States was at the forefront of efforts to ban weapons from space. Contrast this with the Peple's Republic of China, which like previous governments of China is unstable and holds itself to be superior to the other governments of the Earth and accountable to nobody; but is unlike previous Chinese governments in being willing to develop and exploit the tremendous economic power its country possesses. I'm not sanguine about it at all.
Congrats to China on the launch, may more nations follow. The irony of this statement is killing me . -- H
Good one Holadem! (Everyone knows that the Canuck gummint is the best! Our only enemies are insurgent baby seals whom we humanely club to death while rigorously following the rules set by the Geneva Convention.)
Christopher: NASA had already been formed by the time President John F. Kennedy took office; it was formed in 1958 out of the old National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics. Until the Space Shuttle era, no NASA project was specifically a military endeavor. Also, the original seven Mercury astronauts were revealed to the public long before the first manned flight, Mercury-Redstone 3 (flown by Alan Shepard), launched. FYI. JB As for China and the current Shenzou 6 mission, I believe what the country says about its intent with manned spaceflight. But bear in mind, China is only where the U.S.S.R. and the U.S. were in 1961-62 in terms of what is being accomplished.
I wonder if the Chinese will ever tell us how they solved the common problems experienced by the US and USSR when they first went to space? For example, how much shielding did they use to protect the astronauts from harmful radiation whilst in orbit? Do they use CO2 scrubbers? How do they go to the washroom?
The planet Earth itself protects astronauts from most solar and cosmic radiation when the vehicle is flying in LEO. As for Apollo, the spacecraft did not have radiation-specific shielding and, thus, was vulnerable in the case of intense solar flares when flying to the Moon. Had a major solar flare (and I mean major) occurred while any astronaut was on the Moon, the consequences would have been fatal (that is, during Apollo). Question is, will the forthcoming Crew Exploration Vehicle be shielded for flights to the Moon and, much later, to Mars? For Mars it would be almost certainly. How do the astronauts relieve themselves? On the current Space Shuttle, they do so privately in a rudimentary washroom. On the Soyuz, well, there are bags stored onboard. Same with the old Apollo spacecraft. For Shenzou, the same. As for the CEV, dunno.
just the rantings of a paranoid who's still burned about those Pan Am reservations to the Moon... nothing to see here... move along...
Christopher, now you're taking the discussion into areas that are verboten here at HTF. The last thread about the Chinese manned space program, which I started in recognition of the Shenzou 5 mission in 2003, had to be shut down. So, let's keep this one going. Thanks.
Shenzhou 6 Returns: China’s Second Manned Mission Lands Safely Quite an accomplishment. Have NASA or other organizations been able to monitor the craft while it was in orbit?
I know NASA has congratulated China's Space program on their accomplishment but I couldn't find anything about any attempt to monitor the mission. Glad to hear their mission was more successful than their foray into Photoshop. scroll down to the bottom 2 photos
really, that should read: [the ted] holds itself to be superior to the other governments of the Earth and accountable to nobody;
Here comes another space war.
Those last two photos are hilarious - I've seen better celebrity "porn" pictures of better quality!