LeoA
Senior HTF Member
I agree, I much preferred Rebecca's original form.
By the end, the only thing left was that she was still a Righteous Brothers fan...
By the end, the only thing left was that she was still a Righteous Brothers fan...
Another funny episode from season 7- Those Lips, Those Ice. Carla has suspicions about Eddie messing around with an attractive ice skater that has joined his ice show tour. The funnier episodes in the series feature Carla and her feisty, mean demeanor.
Unfortunately, as the series progresses, Rebecca Howe turns more and more into a whiny, babbling loser and completely loses all of the stronger personality traits that made her an interesting character in her first few seasons on the show. The Rebecca Howe at the end of the series is nothing like the character that was originally introduced.
I do not want to spoil it for you so I will not say any more, but stress from the bar doesn't really have much, if anything, to do with the changes in Rebecca's character over the seasons.I have a completely different opinion about this. I haven't even seen the later seasons (only about mid-way through S07), but I see Rebecca as "tightly wound" from day one. It sounds like she continued to unravel as the series progressed, and an in-story explanation for this could be that the stress of working in the bar & with Sam (and having to constantly fight off Sam's advances), dealing with Carla's snide comments, etc. - made her slowly "lose it" as the years wore on - LOL.
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My opinion about her character is definitely affected by the fact that, in my teens, I used to work at a bar/restaurant in the late '80's (right around the time these episodes were originally on, coincidentally) and actually had a female manager that - now that I'm watching these episodes - reminds me a lot of Rebecca. She was very businesslike - but also extremely sexy at the same time (and did let her hair down at times ). She was very calm, cool, and collected most of the time - but when things got too stressful (as they frequently did) ended up "losing it" on several occasions.
Working in a restaurant/bar & dealing with the public can be an extremely difficult, demanding job with unusual hours (2nd shift, normally). And, it typically doesn't pay well (unless you're high up in the food chain @ a very successful business). So, I can see how people that work in this industry burn out quickly - especially if they don't have the right temperament/personality for the job to begin with (as Rebecca obviously didn't).
Susan did appear, played by Marcia Cross, but only in a single episode.
I don’t like any of the episodes with Cliff’s girlfriend Margaret. I just didn’t find the character or situation funny, and this marked the first time, for me, where they had set up a recurring story that didn’t work.
What did you think of Death Takes A Holiday On Ice (the exit of Jay Thomas’s character Eddie LeBec)?Started watching S08, and find it to be entertaining, as always.
-One of the funniest episodes (so far) is when Rebecca wants to throw a huge promotional "party" for the bar, to drum up business & invites the Mayor & the media, etc. This is to celebrate the 100th anniversary of "Cheers" (which opened in 1889). So, she pulls out all the stops & brings in a singing barbershop quartet, dresses up as if she were from the late 1800's, etc.
However, this all back-fires because the 106-year old man (whom she brings in to the bar as part of the promotion, since he's one of the only people left alive who was around when the bar opened) ends up being a real lech; he pinches both her & Carla, feigns a heart attack so he can get a "peek" down women's shirts, etc. - LOL. Also, the Cheers "regulars" embarass her as well; Cliff is his usual obnoxious self, and is taken away by the authorities for being a potential crazy person; Frasier & Lilith make inappropriate (as usual) comments in front of the Mayor & his retinue, etc. Hilarious!
I actually find the episodes with Cliff's girlfriend Margaret to be hilarious; in the episode when she comes back from Canada to spend time with him (early in S08) he starts to have physical problems whenever it looks like he'll may need to "commit" to her - and needs Sam to help him - ha ha. I think these episodes shed a lot of insight into his character, and I actually find the whole situation pathetic & funny - at the same time - LOL!
The episode Death Takes A Holiday On Ice has arguably the funniest line of dialog in the whole series.
What did you think of Death Takes A Holiday On Ice (the exit of Jay Thomas’s character Eddie LeBec)?
I also have a suspicion a Righteous Brothers song was replaced. In the episode where Sam learns that Rebecca's favorite song is You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin', it's actually Unchained Melody that Sam ends up playing for Rebecca.
That episode of Cheers is the same way in syndication, which makes me suspect it's actually an edit that happened at some point after it first aired. Happily though, Unchained Melody is just as good and fits the scene just as well.
Season 8 is the start of the series getting noticeably thin on material- they start having more guest stars, and some of the plots are kind of weak.
Unfortunately, as the series progresses, Rebecca Howe turns more and more into a whiny, babbling loser and completely loses all of the stronger personality traits that made her an interesting character in her first few seasons on the show. The Rebecca Howe at the end of the series is nothing like the character that was originally introduced.
You’ll like Grease- the episode where Norm tries to save his favorite restaurant from the wrecking ball. This episode is early on in season 9.