Challenge Conventional Thinking

Discussion in 'After Hours Lounge (Off Topic)' started by DeathStar1, Jul 25, 2006.

  1. DeathStar1

    DeathStar1 Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2001
    Messages:
    3,267
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I just hate going the way society thinks we should act sometimes, and love to challenge things...


    For instance,

    It's 90 degree's and humid outside. If we wear respectable shorts ( No holes) and a short sleeve shirt, and do our job the way we normally do, who cares if that's what we wear to work? Same person, same proffesional attitude, just in more comfortable clothes...

    Most people could care less if there are politicians. So, get rid of them. Keep the President, VP, keep one of the houses(house or senate), keep the town mayors, his staff, and that's it. Do most people even know who their state senator is, or care? Do they really make that much of a difference in our personal lives?
     
  2. Holadem

    Holadem Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2000
    Messages:
    8,967
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Neil, you rebel you!

    Spoken like a true american [​IMG]

    --
    H
     
  3. Jeff Gatie

    Jeff Gatie Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Uhhhh, you have heard of a little thing called the Constitution and it's finely tuned system of checks and balances that is one of the founding ideas of representitive republic (i.e. "Democratic") governments the world over? Sheesh.[​IMG]
     
  4. Chu Gai

    Chu Gai Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    7,270
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I think the heat's getting to you.
     
  5. DeathStar1

    DeathStar1 Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2001
    Messages:
    3,267
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Nah, Just frustration. Why can't the world come to my way of thinking [​IMG].
     
  6. DeathStar1

    DeathStar1 Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2001
    Messages:
    3,267
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0

    True. But I'm not talking ripped shorts, shirts with tye dyes all over them, earings peirced up the wazoo. I'm just talking nice, normal shorts ( clear colored or Plaid), and a plain color T-Shirt. What's wrong with wearing that and Shoes? Suits are so cumborsome, especially in hot weather [​IMG].


    >>>
    Uhhhh, you have heard of a little thing called the Constitution and it's finely tuned system of checks and balances that is one of the founding ideas of representitive republic (i.e. "Democratic") governments the world over? Sheesh.[​IMG]>>>>

    Demo whatic? [​IMG] juuuust joking with that line. I'd expand on that, but the thread might get bumped [​IMG].
     
  7. Joseph DeMartino

    Joseph DeMartino Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1997
    Messages:
    8,311
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Real Name:
    Joseph DeMartino
  8. Lew Crippen

    Lew Crippen Executive Producer

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    12,060
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don’t to which jobs you are referring, but there are plenty that don’t require society’s input as to your dress. If you are a self-employed cabinetmaker or violinmaker, for example, you can wear what you want. But if your job depends on the approval of others, then a part of gaining that approval is to appear as they expect. So if you work for a company that wants you to represent that company to bank executives, you would be foolish to wear shorts (especially as the weather outside will have little to do with the boardroom.

    There are a lot of places where shorts are not acceptable, even for casual wear.

    And there are plenty of jobs (other than self-employment) where you can wear shorts.

    One of my wife’s cousins remarked to me one day, as we were discussing dress, that if he wore a suit when presenting a paper (he is a cancer researcher), his data would be viewed as suspect. On the other hand, when trying to get funding, banks expected to see a dressed up look (but not necessarily in a dark suit).

    Creative types mostly get a pass on dress (except that other artists won’t like it if they wear a suit0, even from the guys with the money.
     
  9. DaveF

    DaveF Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2001
    Messages:
    18,266
    Likes Received:
    1,646
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    One Loudoun, Ashburn, VA
    Real Name:
    David Fischer
    Well if we did, you'd be all "I just hate going the way society thinks we should act sometimes, and love to challenge things..." and point us back to where the world was. Avoid the bother of a round-trip and stay put. [​IMG]

    Our social systems are largely the result of years of tweaking the previous system, not from frequent whole-sale replacements. The (very real) challenge is figuring out fine-tunings to make to the current system to make it work better. The adjustments can fix problems with the previous, but can introduce new problems. So then we tweak again, fixing some breaking some. Done well, overall the system improves.

    But if you change, particularly gross changes, without due consideration, you will lose the benefits of years of tweaks, and introduce new (significant) problems from your new system.

    So, in your "challenging", have you worked through the ramifications? What will be improved? What will get worse? What are likely unintended consequences that will result? Are they still better than the current system?
     
  10. Jeff Ulmer

    Jeff Ulmer Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 1998
    Messages:
    5,584
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    If you are going to wear clear shorts, why wear shorts at all? Free Willy! As for plaid... umm...wanna buy some shoes?

    You are no longer one with the vortex, you must be cast out! Sheep, bloody sheep I tell you.... [​IMG]
     
  11. Garrett Lundy

    Garrett Lundy Producer

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2002
    Messages:
    3,764
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I have a solution: Buy an air-conditioner.
     
  12. Holadem

    Holadem Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2000
    Messages:
    8,967
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I think Neil has been suffering from acute boredom for the last few weeks (which translates into an average of 2 new threads per day).

    --
    H
     
  13. Jack Briggs

    Jack Briggs Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 1999
    Messages:
    16,738
    Likes Received:
    129
    Trophy Points:
    0


    I've been noticing that.
     
  14. Danny Tse

    Danny Tse Producer

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2000
    Messages:
    3,185
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Man, I totally agree with you. I work as an analyst for the government and 99% of my time is spend in a cubicle, so who cares? Besides, if the lady across from me can come into the office with a sleeveless top and a skirt, I don't think a nice pair of presentable shorts is asking too much. I am telling you, I smell a major class action discrimination lawsuit.

    As for those who think suits = more trustworthy, I see Ken Lay wearing suits.....
     
  15. DeathStar1

    DeathStar1 Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2001
    Messages:
    3,267
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0

    I knew that one would pop out of someones typing f ingers [​IMG]. Clear Shorts should have been said as one colored shorts..
     
  16. DeathStar1

    DeathStar1 Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2001
    Messages:
    3,267
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
     
  17. Kevin T

    Kevin T Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2001
    Messages:
    1,402
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0

    where??!! the only thing kenny-boy is wearing nowadays is the acrid stench of death.

    kevin t
     
  18. Holadem

    Holadem Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2000
    Messages:
    8,967
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well, there are very good chances he was buried in a suit.

    --
    H
     
  19. Jeff Ulmer

    Jeff Ulmer Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 1998
    Messages:
    5,584
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Okay, so everyone gets to wear shorts when it's hot out. Now that is the norm. So are you going back to a suit to be different again? How about wearing a snowsuit instead? [​IMG]

    We must become hunters and killers ourselves!
     
  20. DeathStar1

    DeathStar1 Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2001
    Messages:
    3,267
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0


    Nope. Then I'd stay in shorts during the summer, and dress pants in the winter [​IMG]. Go with the flow of the season [​IMG].

    Although, I have been known to walk the dog for a few minutes in shorts, in ten degree weather [​IMG]. But that was because I Had the heat on high inside, and didn't feel like changing [​IMG].
     

Share This Page