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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by TomCW, Oct 18, 2002.
Acoustic Sounds says CCR Cosmo's Factory SACD shipped yesterday. Oh Boy! Tom
Tom, thanks for the update. Cosmo's Factory is my favorite CCR album, so I would appreciate it if you could post a review, especially comparing the SACD and CD layers.
Woo-hoo! Hopefully Elusive isn't far behind. Ryan
Sure, Keith, I'd be glad to...if only the postman would show up!
I just received my Cosmo's Factory in the mail box. Sounds good but I do hear some limitations of the master, however given the age, this is a quality mastering job! I will listen some more and get back to the Forum later. The amps are still warming up so I don't want to get ahead of myself.
Did not get mine yet, hopefully I'll have it Monday then. Guess it takes a bit longer to the East Coast.
I have listened to it twice - I really like it though it seems slightly compressed in a few areas undoubtedly due to master tape because we know Hoffman leaves things wide open.
Overall, very very good. I am surprised how many songs I knew. I can't wait to hear the other releases.
Lee, have you compared the SACD and CD layers? If you are detecting limitations on the SACD layer, I wonder how the CD layer sounds. Also, do you have any versions of Cosmo's Factory on CD for comparison? I wonder how much better the SACD layer is than my 20-bit K2 CD.
The postman cruised right on by! Oh well, Monday I guess. Tom
This is a little off topic, but does anybody know if there are plans to release a CCR hits disc on SACD? In most cases I am more of an album guy, but I wouldn't mind a disc similar to Chronicles on SACD. Thanks KrisM NP - Duke Robillard - Live, DVD
So does anyone have a verdict on the CD vs. SACD layers on this disc, as well as how both new layers compare to the previous CDs released? If it is a definite improvement over the past CD releases I will pick it up. If not, I will probably pick Cosmo's Factory remastered up from BMG which would end up probably costing me 5 bucks when it is all said and done for a membership. This sounds like one of those titles where Hi-Def is not an overwhelming improvement due to the original masters, which unfortunately I think we are going to see more and more when they get around to doing more older titles. J
I have the same question. I picked up the 20-bit K2 remastered version of Cosmo's Factory recently and am very impressed with the sound quality. Still, I am very curious as to how the SACD sounds. Who am I kidding? I'll pick it up eventually.
I have heard nothing about a CCR compilation coming out on SACD. For now, Steve Hoffman and Analogue Productions have just announced the release of five CCR albums, which is certainly nothing to sneeze at.
Keith, I didn't mean to sneeze at the CCR discs that are avaiable. I would just be happy to have their hits on one disc instead of having to pay for the albums. I haven't looked into what it will cost to get them in Canada, but it would be at least $30.00CDN per disc, if they are even available up here. If I order from the US, it would probably be even more.
NP - Chris Robinson - New Mud Earth
Keith, I do no have any CCR redbooks for comparison, unfortunately but I have not heard any thing good about them. I was not aware there was a K2 available.
No problem. While I am glad to see Steve Hoffman putting CCR albums onto SACD, I would love to see Chronicle on SACD. It would be great to have hit after hit of CCR on SACD, just like Rolling Stones Hot Rocks 1964-1971.
Fantasy has put the following titles on 20-bit K2 remastered CDs:
* Creedence Clearwater Revival
* Cosmo's Factory
* Willie and the Poorboys
* Bayou Country
* Green River
* Mardi Gras
* The Concert
I have all of these except for Green River. Well, I actually have four of the seven in the house, with two others coming from Columbia House. The discs I have sound quite good, but I haven't compared them to the CD layers on the SACDs (I don't have the SACDs yet). Also, I have the DCC gold CD of Pendulum, but I haven't gotten a chance to compare it to the 20-bit K2 disc yet. In any event, I would not be surprised if the CD layers on the SACDs beat the 20-bit K2 CDs. For one thing, Steve Hoffman did the SACDs. Secondly, I am assuming that the CD layers were converted from DSD masters.
By the way, Fantasy has also released a gold CD of Chronicle. I don't have it, so I don't know if it sounds better than the standard CD. The packaging for the gold CD does not have the K2 logo, so I don't know if this disc represents a remastered issue or is just window dressing (i.e., a spiffy gold disc with no substance).
I have the regular CD of 'Chronicle.' Just got my SACDs today and have only listened to "Cosmos Factory" once and am about to listen to "Wille and the Poorboys." Should be interesting to even compare the 2 CD layers when I have a chance.
Kris, Let me know if you find a Canadian price... I'm interested... Phil, Any updates on your listening experience? Later, Miles
Miles, listend to both the SACDs and played "Who Will Stop the Rain" From "Chronicle" as well as both the CD and SACD layers from the new issue. The original has almost flat soundstaging (Fogerty sounds recessed) as compared to the remastered CD and is not as crisp and the SACD refines it as well a bit more and the rhythm guitar sounds more natural on the SACD. The original CD also has limp bass, sounds like it needs Viagra as compared to the reissue. It is there on the original but much less pronounced.
Phil, thanks for the comments. The original CCR Fantasy CDs are not good at all.
I just ordered Cosmo Factory and Willie and the Poorboys. I've never heard the albums, only the hits. I hope the rest of the songs are as good. NP: Miles Davis, The Complete Miles at Montreux, disc 11