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I find it highly unlikely they lost 35mm prints of ANY of "The Brady Bunch" or anything from the Paramount Television Library. Site Source, please.
It's been a few years ago, so I forgot the source. Pretty sure it's not a reliable one either.

If that's the case though, I wonder why the HD versions aren't even available, considering it's as somewhat popular as Happy Days or Star Trek.
 

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It's been a few years ago, so I forgot the source. Pretty sure it's not a reliable one either.

If that's the case though, I wonder why the HD versions aren't even available, considering it's as somewhat popular as Happy Days or Star Trek.
I do believe they should still have the 35mm prints and do believe they should remaster them for HD and 4K. But, I do know during the show's original run on ABC that it got mainly critical reviews and was never in the Top 30 (season 3 came closest, ranking at number 31, but you know what I mean).

~Ben
 

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To speak further of The Brady Bunch they do need to include the following on all 117 episodes, where applicable:
a. The IN COLOR intro. Seasons 1-2 do have this before the opening credits on the DVDs, but it is those for seasons 3-5 that are still missing. Seasons 3-5 had a different shot of the show's cast, now seen away from the stairs.
b. The mid-show bumper used between the final act and closing tag. Various versions exist across all 117 episodes; season 1 used a generic announcer, while seasons 2-5 used one of the show's nine leads as announcer depending on the episode. The shot of the show's cast was recycled from the opening bumper.
c. A short 30-second preview of the next week's episode between the closing tag and closing credits. Some season 1 episodes have this on the Columbia House VHS tapes.

~Ben
 
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Wouldn't the 1980s Twilight Zone (or at least some of the episodes) be in that group of "filmed on film, but edited on tape" series like Mission: Impossible '88 and Star Trek The Next Generation?

And all the prime serials of the 80s in their latter seasons (Dallas, Knots Landing, Dynasty and Falcon Crest).
 

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To speak further of The Brady Bunch they do need to include the following on all 117 episodes, where applicable:
a. The IN COLOR intro. Seasons 1-2 do have this before the opening credits on the DVDs, but it is those for seasons 3-5 that are still missing. Seasons 3-5 had a different shot of the show's cast, now seen away from the stairs.
b. The mid-show bumper used between the final act and closing tag. Various versions exist across all 117 episodes; season 1 used a generic announcer, while seasons 2-5 used one of the show's nine leads as announcer depending on the episode. The shot of the show's cast was recycled from the opening bumper.
c. A short 30-second preview of the next week's episode between the closing tag and closing credits. Some season 1 episodes have this on the Columbia House VHS tapes.

~Ben
a) should definitely be included. c) is a maybe but it should be moved away from the episode itself and included as an extra on the episode it previewed (such as on the original Hawaii Five-0).

The problem is b). Most DVD producers don't want redundant items interrupting the flow of the episode. (We know the episode will return because there's no commercials to stop it.) Otherwise hour-long series would have their mid-episode bumpers included and I don't know of any that do*. I think there would be many complaints from consumers if these were included unless they were kept separate from the episodes as an extra. Personally I wouldn't mind hearing Jack Klugman or Tony Randall saying The Odd Couple would return as heard in the ABC and original syndication runs but that's just me and I don't produce DVDs.

*Obviously I don't mean the end of act 2 on series that ID the name such as Hawaii Five-0 and The Wild Wild West.
 

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a) should definitely be included. c) is a maybe but it should be moved away from the episode itself and included as an extra on the episode it previewed (such as on the original Hawaii Five-0).

The problem is b). Most DVD producers don't want redundant items interrupting the flow of the episode. (We know the episode will return because there's no commercials to stop it.) Otherwise hour-long series would have their mid-episode bumpers included and I don't know of any that do*. I think there would be many complaints from consumers if these were included unless they were kept separate from the episodes as an extra. Personally I wouldn't mind hearing Jack Klugman or Tony Randall saying The Odd Couple would return as heard in the ABC and original syndication runs but that's just me and I don't produce DVDs.

*Obviously I don't mean the end of act 2 on series that ID the name such as Hawaii Five-0 and The Wild Wild West.
You know, what you say about both b) and c) may also be the reason why certain similar mid-show bumpers and closing previews are also missing from many DVD releases of cartoon series (1970s-'80s Hanna-Barbera, for example). That was especially the case for such cartoons like The Perils of Penelope Pitstop since that series did not use a conventional next-week preview bumper but rather a "cliffhanger." I know Jonny Quest has its mid-show bumpers intact on the Blu-Ray re-release (just not the original commercials after the opening credits).

~Ben
 
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I do believe they should still have the 35mm prints and do believe they should remaster them for HD and 4K. But, I do know during the show's original run on ABC that it got mainly critical reviews and was never in the Top 30 (season 3 came closest, ranking at number 31, but you know what I mean).

~Ben

They had to use second-rate sources to reconstruct uncut episodes. It was better than the alternative, settling for cut episodes, if that was truly all there is. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but even so I think they can probably narrow the gap between sources further with current technology.
 

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"Gilligan's Island" deserves a Blu Ray release. I can just imagine how brilliant the colors would look.
In case you didn't know, not only is it at amazon streaming with 1080p, but it's also on METV OTA at 1080p right NOW (sundays anyway). I didn't start recording it till S2E8, so I'm unclear whether they had the whole series done or not. Normally, you would expect so, but I was recording Happy Days in 720p, then it shifted to 1080p (broadcast signal anyway) and somewhere around S6 or S7 it went to the 480p look. And I can tell you, to be recording it, lose track of it, and then see it in 480p again, it hurts the eyes BAD.
 

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