Carly Simon "You're so vain" - dog theory

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  1. Dennis Nicholls

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    I'm wracking my brains....the most reasonable theory I've yet seen on who is the subject of "You're so vain" holds that it's written about Carly's pet dog . Guys wouldn't wear apricot scarves, for goodness sake, but putting a scarf on your dog was common back in the early 1970's. I read a writeup about this theory several years back that made each individual lyric seem plausible to the dog theory. The icing on the cake, however, is how everyone began theorizing how it referred to one of her previous boyfriends.

    Does anyone have a link to an article raising this theory?
     
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    *ROFLMAO*

    Washington Post: Warren Beatty?

    Carly: It certainly sounds like it was about Warren Beatty. He certainly thought it was about him - he called me and said thanks for the song….

    WP: You had gone with him?

    Carly: Hasn’t everybody?

    WP: No.

    Carly: That only means you haven’t met him, though at the time I met him he was still relatively undiscovered as a Don Juan. I felt I was one among thousands at that point – it hadn’t reached, you know, the populations of small countries….
     
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    I thought many of the interviews were quite amusing. I always heard it was about Jagger going back to the time of its release. I guess only one person really knows what it is about and she is having fun with all the theories.[​IMG]
     
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    There was also a theory going around that Bob Dylan's Lay, Lady Lay was also about a dog.
     
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    The early seventies were weird times for fashion - the simple answer is yes, they would. Scarves/cravats were a very popular fashion item hack then - have a look at sort of outfits Jimi Hendrix wore.
     
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    Well, it still could be Cat Stevens...
     
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    But there's no R in Cat Stevens. [​IMG]
     
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    This always appeared to be a stretch, because Jagger himself is singing backup on 'You're so Vain'. He isn't credited on the album but that's him singing backup.
     
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    I wonder what his given name is...surely "Cat" isn't on his birth certificate
     
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    Cat Stevens was born Steven Demetre Georgiou. In case anyone was wondering, the song has nothing to do with me so that possibility can be eliminated if it helps at all[​IMG]
     
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    Isn't Barry Manilow's "Mandy" about his dog? (or so the legend goes according to "Can't Hardly Wait")


    p.s. "Yusuf Islam will always be CAT Stevens" - Homer Simpson [​IMG]
     
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    I always heard it was about James Taylor. She used to be married to him and his name contains all of the letters (A, E, and R).

    Then again in the song it states:

    "Well, you're where you should be all of the time
    And when you're not you're with
    Some underworld spy or the wife of a close friend
    Wife of a close friend, and...."

    Mick Jagger supposedly had an affair and wrote a song about his close friend's (David Bowie)wife.
     
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    if anyone is currently reading The DaVinci Code, or The Rule of Four, I bet this is doing your head in

    there can't be that many of Carly's ex-lovers who has a horse that raced(?) in Saratoga, and owns a Lear Jet to boot

    has to be a composite
     

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